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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Marija: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Baalberith: [qb] [QUOTE][b] I notice in this thread the common error of ascribing too much meaning to the bogus "racial" categories "white" and "black". Anyone darker than Trump is "black" to some people[/b][/QUOTE]It isn’t erroneous for people to use “White” or “Black”, in such a basic manner, per se. Just established a appropriate context for those categories, for example my definition for someone who is “Black” is someone who is a undecided subset of Mankind that is “tropically” or “semi-tropically” adapted, independent of any genetic make up or place of origin, while my definition of someone who is “White”, is a variation of Mankind that is also undecided and not limited to your genetic makeup or simply your origin, but unlike my definition for “Black”, only possesses features first defined by the mainstream, which is a contradiction especially since East Asians are phenotypically distinct and fair skinned, along with the complex issue of the one dropped rule, which indicate that anyone with recent “Black” ancestors is deemed Black, which is basically another example of a problematic situation in defining race. [/qb][/QUOTE]Yes, it is all problematic. By your definition, you're including as "black" people who are not related, simply because they're in the tropics! That is not a coherent group in terms of anything but skin color, which really is a trivial human trait. This nonsense was first established by Euroimperialists who made up the entire "race" notion, and the notion of "white" and "non-white" simply to rationalize their abuse of non-European peoples. They defined "non-white" as inferior, less civilized, etc., and so oh no the Euros aren't exploiting and robbing people worldwide, they're "civilizing" them. For us to still use these terms is to validate that Eurocentric error and evil! There is no verifiable separation of the so-called "whites" from the rest of humanity. As you said, there are people just as light as most Europeans in northeastern Eurasia, and so which other criterion do we use in defining "white" people? Skull configurations? By that metric, very dark southern Indians would be "white". And so on... In the USA I realize we have 2 ethnic groups who've lost most of their ancestral cultures, and so we lump them together as "whites" and "blacks". This distinction was codified in Virginia in the 17th century in order to disrupt solidarity between Euro and Afro-descended workers, and to facilitate the enslavement of the Africans. Prior to that, in the 13 Colonies, there was a time when most of the slaves were "white"! The fact is, there is no such thing as a "white race" nor a "black race". It's all bull dooky. We're stuck now in the USA calling each other "black" and "white" because the 2 groups have no other ethnic identity, which is pathetic, really. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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