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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [QB] Funny thing I notice is that as you back to photos 100 years or more ago, the more you run into black folks among them..... Some groups mentioned: black yi, miao, mongols, manchu, etc... and quite often you see a pattern where the ethic group is split into 'black' and 'white' subgroups, where the meaning is obvious. So going as far back in time as you want in even mainland Chinese history there have been black people recognized and identified among the populations there. Some pages referencing these groups with pics: http://www.gokunming.com/en/blog/item/636/yunnans_ethnic_minorities_at_the_end_of_the_qing_dynasty Yi people: http://anthrocivitas.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4519 http://www.china.org.cn/e-groups/shaoshu/shao-2-yi.htm [QUOTE] Many of the Yi in Liangshan and northwestern Yunnan practiced a complicated form of slavery. People were split into the nuohuo or Black Yi (nobles), qunuo or White Yi (commoners) ..... During Sui and Tang dynasty, the local aborigines of present-day Yunnan and Liangshan were distinguished by Chinese Han as Wuman (Chinese: meaning black barbarian) and Baiman (Chinese: meaning white barbarian)[/QUOTE] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yi_people Black mongols/tibetans... here is an example from a video about the dalai lama. Scroll to the 1:08:30 mark and you will see a few in the streets of Tibet(modern video, no question these are black mongols/tibetans): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=322SFh6d3iA One of the photographers to take pictures in old China was Auguste Francois. His pictures from the time are priceless..... Of course those who want to deny the ancient blacks of Asia (not just negritos) have good reason. The black folks don't want to admit that there has been a genocidal and eugenics based agenda against blacks in many parts of the world over the last few hundred years or more(so they need to get their sh!t together else people will be asking what happened to them just like the blacks in old b/w photos). And the rest just want to hide it and cover it up. BTW, if you look up Cham dancing in Tibet you will see dancers with fierce black masks..... Those are basically from the Cham people of South Asia, the "little blacks".... or Khamites.... http://www.gokunming.com/en/blog/item/595/auguste_franois_yin_xiaojun_and_kunming_at_the_end_of_the_qing_dynasty [QUOTE] In retirement, he wrote texts elucidating his images. François's work has been an invaluable means of documenting China's state palaces in the last decade of the empire. His photography is the earliest, largest and most extensive and complete collection of photographs documenting Chinese society at the end of the Qing Dynasty. Armed with what was then state-of-the-art photographic and cinematic equipment, François traveled extensively throughout southern China and eventually followed the Yangtze from Yunnan to its terminus in Shanghai. His photographs are some of the earliest and most thorough photographic records of China and the motion pictures he took are thought to be the earliest motion pictures taken in China.[/QUOTE] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auguste_Fran%C3%A7ois [IMG]http://www.villerslesnancy.fr/UserFiles/Image/Culture/Expos%20Galerie/affiche-auguste-francois.jpg[/IMG] http://www.villerslesnancy.fr/fr/auguste-francois.html But you must also understand that China has had a policy of assimilation since the Qing dynasty which has allowed for intermarriage of Chinese populations into many ethnic groups. This has made many modern ethnic groups less diverse than they were 100 years ago, with the black faces now either mixed out of existence or kept in isolation or censored to the outside world. And this goes both within China proper and in many parts of South Asia. To the point where many south Asians identify more with the Chinese phenotype than the native "aboriginal" phenotype. Interesting discussion on an asian message board. http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=255874 Video of Cham villages in South Asia. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hhi0n3qMbeo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3Obajcrjgs http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=H3eM3pWUqqs&NR=1 [/QB][/QUOTE]
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