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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by africurious: [qb] Another thing I'd add is that it's so spurious to talk about africa relinquishing money by having foreign corporations extracting resources. The money africa gets from those foreign corps can be seen in the many fancy homes, vehicles, clothes of the ppl in gov't and their families and friends. Not to mention the foreign bank accounts where these gov't officials stash their loot. [/qb][/QUOTE]A couple of Africans will a little money does not change the situation for most Africans overall. By that logic since you got Oprah Winfrey, there is no poverty or problems among black folks in America. Or because you got Wyclef Jean there is no poverty or problems among black folks in Haiti. And certainly the same goes true for Africa overall. The problem is that black folks think like INDIVIDUALS not as a NATION. So if I have a job and I have a car or whatever other trinkets I deem important, then black folks are doing good, or better yet, who cares how black folks are doing. But who made those trinkets? Not black folks. And who gave you the money to buy those trinkets? Again, not black folks. So at the end of the day you got a bunch of mindless consumers happy to not be empowered or in control of ANYTHING because they got a couple extra dollars over some other black person. NOBODY else on the planet thinks like that and that is why EVERYONE else is doing better AS A GROUP than Africans. Asians, Europeans and Native Americans are able to do so much better because they don't think like black folks. And for all that individualist talk of European society, they sure don't operate like that. They are quick to circle the wagons when they feel threatened. Black folks just keep pulling their own wagons separate from each other and don't care if any of them are threatened or not except if THEY get threatened. It is funny to hear black folks talk like they got money when on any scale they are at the bottom of EVERY ladder of wealth and power in the world. But somehow they are able to live in fantasy world and pretend that this is not the case.... lol. So I guess because SOME black individuals got SOME money, none of the below is reality: Child tobacco slavery in Malawi: [QUOTE]http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Environment/Pix/columnists/2011/9/13/1315923366726/MDG--Malawi-tobacco-child-013.jpg[/IMG] [Quote] At the height of the tobacco harvest season, Malawi's lush, flowing fields are filled with young children picking the big green-yellow leaves. Some can count their age on one hand. One of them is five-year-old Olofala, who works every day with his parents in rural Kasungu, one of Malawi's key tobacco growing districts. When asked if he will go to school next year, he shrugs his shoulders.[/QUOTE] http://www.guardian.co.uk/global-development/2011/sep/14/malawi-child-labour-tobacco-industry [IMG]http://images-02.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/120/462/706_001.jpg[/IMG] http://postcards.delcampe.net/page/item/id,120462706,var,Malawi-Tobacco-farming-auction-rooms,language,E.html Now, just because you see black folks growing the tobacco and selling it at auction, don't be fooled. They are simply share croppers who work primarily for the British and other foreigners who make tobacco products. That is why they are poor. And their government does not allow them to create huge farms for growing food for other Africans or themselves. Therefore, Malawi is primarily still a British/Dutch run tobacco and tea colony. But you know negroes, they will find some way to spin this into something GOOD for Africans. [QUOTE] Tobacco is produced in both large estates, concentrated in the central plateaus of the country, and in small landholdings throughout the country. These smaller farms average about 2.5 acres (10,000 m2), about a third of the size of small tobacco producing farms in the United States. For small farms with less than 1-acre (4,000 m2) in tobacco cultivation, four out of five farms have a negative income. The other farms average an agricultural income of MK 3,000 or about 20 US dollars.[11] Most of Malawi's tobacco is sold through global leaf processing companies Universal Leaf Corporation and Alliance One International. The primary buyers of Malawian tobacco are Philip Morris International and British American Tobacco. Tobacco growers in Malawi have three options to sell their product. Tobacco growers can sell their product on auction floors through tobacco clubs. The unit price is high when sold at auction, but producers must have at least 100 kilogram. Growers can also sell directly to ADMARC, the Agricultural Development and Marketing Corporation. This practice fell out of favor after liberalization in the early 1990s.[/QUOTE] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_industry_in_Malawi [QUOTE] Dolophina Manguluza sits alone under a make-shift shelter in Namasoko Village, Mkumba in Malawi's Phalombe district. Aged 45, Dolophina is not happy as she ponders the unfortunate turn her life has taken since she started working for various tobacco estates as a tenant in 1983. Wearing a sullen and haggard expression, cold tears trickle down her swollen eyes as she recounts the events which led her here: "When I left my home together with my husband and two children and found a job here, I expected to make a fortune," she recalls while sorting out tobacco leaves. "I was determined to deal with poverty once and for all. Most of the times, even neglecting my motherly role but things never worked out the way we envisioned." Dolophina says that as a family working on the estate they were not given any money, apart from the food, soap and several other items they had obtained from the estate authorities on credit, which they were expected to pay back later. "Together, we have since then been working for various estates in Rumphi, Salima, Ntchisi and Dedza besides here in Kasungu," she says. "But the situation has not improved for my family. We have not earned anything beyond K2, 000 per year even with my current employer who I have been with for the past 10 years." She adds, "We have nothing to live on. There is no food in the house, our children have no clothes and often go on an empty stomach." She says her children are not allowed to go to school and she has been making all her seven children work in the garden since the owners claim that they employ the whole family.[/QUOTE] http://www.streetnewsservice.org/news/2012/october/feed-353/exploitation-of-malawi%E2%80%99s-tobacco-workers-could-be-avoided.aspx And this is no different in any other part of Africa. The crops may be different but the system is the same and this is EXACTLY why Africans do not own the land they live on. Because the governments work for foreigners and their former masters to make sure the land ONLY is used to benefit and enrich others and NOT Africans. In West Africa it is cocoa. In East Africa it is food crops, tea and flowers, in South Central Africa it is coffee and rubber and so forth.... [/QB][/QUOTE]
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