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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Firewall: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by africurious: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Firewall: [qb] It DOES NOT MATTER HOW MANY POSTIVE THREADS or post about africa these guys just ignored and jump on bad news and outdated and incorrect news all time about africa. I did not read lamin or doug post and anything i did read was very little because i could not take it,because i know it will be bad and incorrect info,but mena7, africurious , Son of Ra , zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova and Brada-Anansi have much more balanced views,and that's all i am asking when it come to modern africa. The problem lamin and doug have is that they always see the glass half empty and never half full.I COULD NVER BE AROUND FOLKS LIKE THAT IN REAL LIFE. They never have hope for the future of blacks,and that' the wrong way to see you future. [/qb][/QUOTE]I wouldn't say it's that folks like doug and lamin necessarily lack hope on the future of africa but they do not follow it's economics in depth, aside from maybe reading a few newspaper articles. That will not do. One has to read business/economic newspapers (such as the Economist) at a minimum and business/economic journals and academic sources to get a good idea of economic reality. Even the venerable NY Times is often inadequate in terms of economics. My academic background is business so I have a greater understanding of economics than most on this forum and it's very easy to tell when someone doesn't know much about economics. If you look at the posts of folks like doug on this forum it's just eye-catching instances of negative snapshots while what you posted are actually a comprehensive assessments of the overall economic situation in africa. Those who are open to knowlegde instead of victimhood will gain from what you've posted. [QUOTE] Africa is benefits more from china then china then benefits from africa now.I READ africa had a trade surplus with china. Africans are building up their infrastructure too not just china HELPING.[/QUOTE]I have to disagree with you here. Having a trade surplus with a country doesn't automatically mean you gain more from them than they from you. This is especially so in africa's case with china because the reason for the surplus is that china's economy is bigger than africa's and is growing at much faster rate which requires them to buy vast quantities of raw materials from africa, while africa's economy is smaller and growing less rapid so they have less $s to buy chinese goods as well as chinese goods have more competition than africa's commodities do. I have not read enough on the topic to say whether one is gaining more than the other but I do know that at least they are both gaining. [QUOTE] quote- Son of Ra Portuguese people are even moving to Angola in waves due to Portugals bad economy [/QUOTE]And I must strongly disagree with the implication of the quote above. That quote from Son of Ra is misguided. The portugese are going to angola because they can get jobs there, yes, but that is because angolans themselves are not filling these jobs because the population doesn't have enough educated and skilled ppl to fill the positions (which is the fault of the gov't and the long civil war). The ppl in angola who are getting rich now are those in gov't/ connected to gov't officials and foreigners who come to do high paying skilled jobs or start businesses that serve foreign expats in angola. The avg angolan would love to move to portugal (or elsewhere in euro) so they can get better jobs to support their fam. I am hoping that the angolan gov't really invests in education and infrastructure and not let the angolan masses remain impoverished like in equatorial guinea. [/qb][/QUOTE]Good points. Equatorial guinea should have done a better job quicker then any african nation in dealing with poverty because of it's wealth. Hopefully in 5 years things will improve greatly there. I know at least with help of chinese etc..that equatorial guinea are building up infrastructure in that nation,but at the same time they need to focus more on poverty has well. I know angola has done a better job at it then equatorial guinea. Angola is building up infrastructure too but just doing a better job quickly with poverty then equatorial guinea. I read the poverty rate for angola now is about 45% maybe 40% now,so things are happening more quickly dealing with issue front. Poverty is still high but at least it's below 50% and not 75% like it was about 10 years ago or so. Of course i still say doug and lamin ignores info because i remember some good stuff was posted before and they chose to twist it and say it's not true,so i think it does not matter were the source is. They are just in the negative news business only with modern blacks,and nothing postive and alot of their info is mixed with some times half truths,almost half truths and at times all lies. They have very little of the facts,but most of the time thier info is outdated or incorrect or both. I know in 5 years africa will look different then now just like it looks different now then 20 or 10 years ago. Here something about poverty in angola in recent times. Watch them twist it,and say it's not true. Instead of saying that's good news,they will twist it AND SOME HOW TURN IT INTO STILL BAD NEWS. Watch. Now some good news from angola. Angola Achieves Millennium Development Goals By Reducing Mal Nutrition Luanda — Angola reached in 2012 the Millennium Development Goal set for 2015, by reducing at more than 50 per cent of mal-nutrition case in the period between 1990 and 2012. This was said on Tuesday by FAO official, Mamadou Diallo, when speaking at the opening act of a workshop dubbed "Urban and peri-urban vegetable plotting to reduce poverty and malnutrition in Angola". On the occasion, Mamadou Diallo acknowledges that the Angolan government has been working hard and as result the country has achieved various social, economic and environmental progresses over the last years. "FAO is proud of accompanying Angola in this battle and is convinced that this African country will reach in a sustainable way all the Millennium Development Goals", he said. http://allafrica.com/stories/201304030161.html ____________________ Angola : Poverty level nearly halved in a decade On Wednesday 20 October the UN's Resident Coordinator in Angola, Koen Vanormelingen, said that poverty levels in Angola have dropped from 63% percent in 2002 to 38% in 2009, and noted other advances in living standards. Among the other advances in Millennium Development Goals (MDGs) highlighted by Vanormelingen are increased primary schooling and the expansion of a national health network. In a previous report in June the UN gave some other impressive figures: malnutrition dropped from 35% in 2002 to 23% in 2010, school enrolment has surged to 76%, gender parity is close to being achieved in schools, with 98 girls for every 100 boys (although low pass-through rates mean that education is still a priority), infant mortality is down nearly 20% and the proportion of child deaths from malaria has fallen. The UN sees progress on five (of eight) MDGs: malnutrition, education, gender balance, child survival and malaria, and HIV/AIDS. Areas that still require attention are maternal mortality at birth, which is still high owing to a lack of midwives, and water and sanitation: only 42% of the population has access to safe drinking water and 60% to basic sanitation. The primary driver of progress in all these areas is Angola's oil-driven economic growth, and the foreign investment that goes with it. This provides a tax base for government to honour its exemplary financial commitment: 30% of the national budget goes to social programmes. Vanormelingen did warn that economic and social disparities between the richest and the poorest in Angola could place the gains made at risk, and said that reducing these disparities was the goal of co-operation programmes between the UN and the Angolan government. http://www.lesafriques.com/en/intern...articleid=0330 [/QB][/QUOTE]
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