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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [QB] Blacks actually engaging in Affirmative Action "debate" in south Africa: [QUOTE] As the debate about affirmative action continues to rage, it has become increasingly apparent that few people are willing to acknowledge the extent of their own power and privilege. The discussion is being framed in absolutist terms: it benefits all or it benefits none. The truth, as it is with all policy implementation in South Africa, is far more complicated. However, what is not in doubt is the need for us to deepen our commitment to removing the barriers to employment of race, gender and class. [/QUOTE] http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/opinionista/2013-05-17-51956b3ae48ec/#.UaijVNgUhBl Which basically says that as long as the folks that used to use your people as dog food give you jobs and let you run nonprofits (which don't do anything) you are O.K. [QUOTE] (CNN) -- More than two decades after the death of the systematic racial discrimination policy of apartheid, a community living southeast of South Africa's capital Pretoria is being accused of trying to keep its racist ideals alive. White men clad in military uniforms stamped with an old South African flag guard the gates of the controversial settlement known as Kleinfontein. All the signs within its boundaries are written in Afrikaans, the language that developed out of the Dutch dialect spoken by early colonizers and which is spoken by the town's 1,000 white inhabitants. A bust of Hendrick Verwoerd, the assassinated prime minister considered the architect of apartheid, greets visitors upon entry. "Kleinfontein is a cultural community," explains its spokeswoman Marisa Haasbroek, "if you are not an Afrikaaner you cannot live here." Afrikaaners are white South Africans of mostly Dutch descent. The private settlement has made headlines in recent weeks after it was exposed by a local newspaper. Haasbroek defends its existence saying residents simply want to live among their own kind. The 50-year-old mother of two tells CNN she moved to Kleinfontein six years ago shortly after her car was stolen in the city center. "I was just sick of crime," she says. "My parents-in-law were already living here and they told us Kleinfontein is safe," Haasbroek, her engineer husband and their children packed their belongings and moved to the "whites only" enclave.[/QUOTE] http://edition.cnn.com/2013/05/31/world/africa/south-africa-kleinfontein-apartheid-nkepile-mabuse/?hpt=hp_c1 And this is a majority black country. Make no mistake, the job of the ANC is to face the wrath of the black population while the whites quietly reorganize themselves to reemerge as the "new saviors" of South Africa. As if they EVER did anything for the majority of South Africans. But to hear them tell it, it is all the black politicians fault that things are so bad. Not apartheid, not 200 years of racism and stealing. Nope. Nothing wrong with white folks. It is all the black mans fault. And black folks actually go for this nonsense. In reality white folks want to just enjoy the land and wealth they stole in South Africa and be left alone with the blacks far away and isolated in slums. A few token negroes here an there is fine as long as they believe that white folks are good and gracious.... And of course the main ones who are most against blacks having ANY form of economic empowerment are primarily the British and other Europeans who set the system up to begin with. [QUOTE] ANY discussion in South Africa about affirmative action and employment equity is fraught with danger: the emotional temperature rockets into the stratosphere and those involved are frequently reduced to such anger they become incoherent. The London-based Economist doesn't need to be sensitive about the subject, though, and it isn't. In its April 27 issue it called frankly: "Time to scrap affirmative action". It was prompted to review the subject after the US Supreme Court agreed to consider a case about a vote in the state of Michigan that banned affirmative action, "and will soon rule on whether the University of Texas's race-conscious admissions policies are lawful. "The question in both cases is as simple as it is divisive: should government be colour-blind?" In South Africa that's a question that can be dismissed out of hand. This country has been seized by the theatre of race and colour for hundreds of years: things aren't likely to change over the next decade or so. Besides, the African National Congress (ANC) isn't in power because of its brilliance as a government. It is there because it relies on demographics, just as the National Party relied on fear and tribal affiliation. But it is worth looking at the ANC's policy document on affirmative action because in its very second paragraph it sums up exactly what is wrong about the manner in which this policy has been implemented: "If badly managed, it will simply redistribute resentment, damage the economy and destroy social peace."[/QUOTE] [QUOTE] Rainbow goes black: South African press, social networking sites replete with anti-India racism; Even Gandhi not spared Durban: Fondly called as the Rainbow nation' for its amazaing diversity and tolerance, South Africa has witnessed series of anti-India comments and 'racist' articles warning South African Indians to vacate the country and major cities, where the community makes the largest minority group. The .Guptagate., or the controversy erupted over unlawful behavior of influential Gupta family, who allegedly used Waterkloof Air base for landing planes carrying wedding guests, is believed to be a prime reason behind latest hateful verbal attacks against the Indian community. In a prominent newspaper City Press, a columnist remarked, ."I penned this letter to you in the interests of educating, liberating and giving you a free, but stern, warning not to grandstand against an African person in the way you did to the traffic official who innocently mistook you for one of the Gupta brothers. "Such an action is certain to attract severe African contempt. First and foremost, you are an Indian and, contrary to what you believe and what you perhaps have been taught, South Africa is an African country with its land in its totality and proportion rightfully belonging to its indigenous African people." The writer.s comments were directed against mayor of Kwazulu-Natal Afzur Rahman, who had complained against an African traffic cop after the latter asked him to leave South Africa. .The traffic official was absolutely correct in reminding you that India is your home, and you should perhaps begin to embrace India as your home as we Africans embrace South Africa as our home, which we are more than willing to fight and die for,. was the explanation that City Press gave on behalf of the .racist. constable. Even Mahatma Gandhi wasn.t spared from the venomous writing. .Your hero, Mahatma Gandhi, once again rallied Indians to fight alongside the British in the Zulu Rebellion led by Nkosi Bambatha kaMancinza, where more than 7,000 African warriors fought and bled for this land,. the author noted. The South Africa Human Right [/QUOTE] http://daily.bhaskar.com/article/NAT-TOP-guptagate-stirs-anti-india-racism-indians-called-new-whites-threatened-of-being--4278830-PHO.html The funny part in all of this is that these clowns ACTUALLY want black folks to believe THEY are the racists in South Africa..... Black folks are the MAJORITY population but the white minority and their indian lackeys (their term) are the ones with the wealth and power. And ALL of that is due to Apartheid. But Africans are racists? That is exactly what happens when you leave the ACTUAL RACISTS in control and allow them to manipulate you and your brain into believing total B.S. [QUOTE] DURBAN: A Zulu pressure group has called for South African Indians to be excluded from transformation processes, citing "overt racism" towards black South Africans from the time that Mahatma Gandhi was in the country. But both the provincial government and the Indian community have dismissed the suggestions. Mazibuye African Forum, claiming to advocate socio-economic justice for indigenous Africans in South Africa, particularly in KwaZulu-Natal province, was reacting to a decision by the provincial government to erect a statue in Durban to commemorate the arrival of the first Indians in 1860 as indentured labourers for sugar cane farms. "We have and are still calling for the Indians to be completely excluded from Black Economic Empowerment, Affirmative Action as well as Employment Equity unconditionally, with immediate effect and reiterate that their classification with Africans as a previously disadvantaged group is not only counter-productive but counter-revolutionary as well," Mazibuye chairman Zweli Sangweni said in a statement. "Indians have been overtly racist towards Africans from the time they were brought in South Africa by the British Imperial Government," Sangweni said. [/QUOTE] http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-05-27/other-news/39556934_1_south-african-indians-racism-employment-equity So this is your "rainbow" nation where the Boers want to resegregate. The Indians just want to be above the Kaffirs (as Ghandi himself said), the Europeans just want the blacks to shut up, the banks and industries are running away with the money and the ANC and the blacks are left holding the bag, killing each other and looking ridiculous. Now it is odd how these white folks got away with 200 years of theft and crimes against humanity with nothing but some crocodile tears, but now they want to sit up and pretend to be pinnacles of freedom and humanity..... And black folks go for this nonsense. [QUOTE] On Mahatma Gandhi, his pathetic racism and advancement of segregation of black people The greatest injustice against the struggle for liberation of black people was the projection of Mahatma Gandhi as committed to a cause against segregation. It is a fallacy that Gandhi in his struggles had any interests of black people at heart. His was a selfish cause to advance interests of Indians while encouraging continuing subjugation of black people. Gandhi held an absurd belief that Indians, along with whites, were a superior race to black people. He said, .the British rulers take us to be so lowly and ignorant that they assume that, like the Kaffirs who can be pleased with toys and pins, we can also be fobbed off with trinkets . ours is one continual struggle against a degradation sought to be inflicted upon us by the Europeans, who desire to degrade us to the level of the raw Kaffir whose occupation is hunting, and whose sole ambition is to collect a certain number of cattle to buy a wife with and, then, pass his life in indolence and nakedness . Kaffirs are as a rule uncivilised . the convicts even more so. They are troublesome, very dirty and live almost like animals.. He conspired with the oppressive white government in promotion of segregation of black people and elevating the importance of Indians above them. Indians believed in their false sense of superiority in that they frequently complained of being mixed in with black people in railway cars, lavatories, pass laws and in other regulations. They demanded special treatment and loathed being considered in the same regard as black people. He protested that, .we are classed with the natives of South Africa . Kaffir race.. Gandhi ensured that Indians received their elevation above black people and helped entrench segregation laws against black people. His major achievement was the creation of a separate entrance for Indians to the Durban Post Office who previously had to share with black people. Gandhi wrote: .In the Durban Post and telegraph offices there were separate entrances for natives and Asiatics and Europeans. We felt the indignity too much and many respectable Indians were insulted and called all sorts of names by the clerks at the counter. We petitioned the authorities to do away with the invidious distinction and they have now provided three separate entrances for natives, Asiatics and Europeans.. There is a growing tendency to try to portray Gandhi as some messiah who also advanced the cause of black people. He cared less about the plight of black people and his sole purpose was to see Indians receive preferential treatment and laws be amended to that effect; while laws governing black people remained in force. He endorsed the ridiculous notion of white supremacy probably in the hope and belief that it would assist his cause for Indians. [/QUOTE] http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/sentletsediakanyo/2008/10/17/on-mahatma-gandhi-his-pathetic-racism-and-advancement-of-segregation-of-black-people/ [/QB][/QUOTE]
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