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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by dana marniche: [qb] Wow! Djehuti this is actually news to me. Thanks for the update! Last time i heard about J1 must have been from one of the neo-Nazis on this or on the Dienekes site. I had no idea. Well I guess the advancement of genetics has proven what has been said all along by colonialists and forensics, and will continue to do so. And this is really powerful evidence.[/qb][/QUOTE]Yeah, one thing I forgot to add is that while most experts presume an Asian origin for hg J, there are some individuals who think it may have an African origin due to the high frequency of J* (underived) in Soqotra Island as well as in the Horn of Africa. Explorer believes it may have arisen in Africa as well [QUOTE][qb]On the other hand isn't it supposed to have originated in JT which people are saying is derived from Anatolia? [/qb][/QUOTE]I think you are confused with J1 which is believed to have arisen in the Anatolia Mesopotamian area which is where it has it's highest frequency and diversity. Its sibling J1 likely originated in Arabia where its highest frequency and diversity is in Yemen. And the parent of both J1 and J2, J* has its highest frequency in Soqotra Island, though I'm unsure of its diversity. It's high frequency on the island may be the result of founder effect via the original Mahra settlers, though J* is also found in Yemen and in Somalia and Eritrea. J's parent is IJ which is rare and from what I've read a few years ago was found among a few individuals in Iran. Though IJ's sibling hg K is found in a wide range from Australia and Oceania in the Pacific all throughout Eurasia with some frequency in North and East Africa. Their parent IJK is yet to be discovered though IJK's ancestor F is predominantly Eurasian, underived F* is found so far in Iran and then in Sudan. There are some who postulate F arose in Africa first before it spread to Asia. The point is Southwest Asia or as Tukuler calls it 'extra Africa' or 'far northeast Africa' was a gateway for populations expanding out of or going back into Africa. Which is why I question the divide between 'Africa' and 'Eurasian' or non-African especially when it comes to these very ancient lineages found in Southwest Asia. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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