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[QUOTE]Originally posted by dana marniche: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: [qb] ^ I'd be careful about blanketing all early Canaanites or Arabians as that dark or "very black". Both artistic and historical evidence show that Arabians from the Bronze Age were already diverse in looks and features. I will say that the Israelites in their writings described certain tribes to their south like the Midianites, Kedarites, and others as 'shahhor' in complexion. 'Shahhor' is often translated as 'dark' though in poetry this darkness is likened to "late evening" and "wine". So no doubt they were very dark or black. Also of relevance... [QUOTE]Originally posted by Troll Patrol: [i] The DE haplogroup appeared approximately 50,000 years bp in North East Africa and subsequently split into haplogroup E that spread to Europe and Africa and haplogroup D that rapidly spread along the coastline of India and Asia to North Asia. [b]The IJ haplogroup characterizes part of the second wave of emigration from Africa that occurred via the Middle East 45,000 years bp and defines two branches I and J that emigrated northwards and eastwards into Europe[/i][/b] http://www.isogg.org/tree/ISOGG_YDNATreeTrunk.html [IMG]http://origin-ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S0140673611614530-gr1.jpg[/IMG] --The Lancet, Volume 379, Issue 9819, Pages 915-922[/QUOTE][/qb][/QUOTE]Djehuti - the Israelites were an ancient people who were derived from the Midianites and other Canaanite people. No Israelite every wrote anything about color, any more than any Arab wrote about Muhammad being a white man with blue eyes and long hair. Israelites were an ancient people who had nothing to do with the Septuagint and later Talmudic interpretations, which were mainly Central Asian derived. UI would be3 careful of believing the picture spams that people have posted claiming people in ancient bas reliefs as Arabs or Arabians. I can assure you many of them ARE NOT. one famous one that people post said to be a bearded man named Abesha the "Midianite" entering Egypt with his family by early scholars is a good case in point. I am sure most know which painting I am referring to. Israeli were a people related to the modern Kinanah, Qureish of Arabia whom were known as related to the Lehi and Levites until recent times. Anyone who has truly researched the subject knows that the Kinanah, Quraysh and Levites or Israel were the same people. See what A.J. Deus and others are noting: "The Levite Quraysh should have been Muhammad's supporters against the Ghassanid Saracens, who then lost teh Kaaba to the Quraysh...the Levite Quraysh had a new plan which was later turned into a revelation how to go home to Israel. In order to achieve that they first took revenge against the Ghassanid Saracens because their archenemies had been sitting in the Levites Kaaba." p. 148 The Great Leap Fraud: Sociol Economics of Religious Terrorism Vol. 2. "The Levite Korahites (alias Quraysh) had dispatched one prophet after another to subvert the Roman Empire's culture to redeem the nation of Israel." p. 20 Yes, being careful is what is lacking in this day time because most people are blogging about things they no very little about. The modern or ancient Levant should not be confused with ancient Arabia or Israel and their Canaanite (Wadhi Kinawna) forbearers. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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