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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Firewall: [QB] I found this in another forum FROM THIS POSTER CALLED Mortified. Mortified- [QUOTE] This could explain the prevalence of J1 among the Bejas: The Rabica and their supporters played a leading role in the spread of Islam and Arab influence in the Land of the Mines: After their quarrel with al-(Umar1, they allied themselves with the Beja, with whom they intermarried extensively. They were thus to benefit from the matrilineal system of succession (prevelant all over the Sudan at that time) and inherit the control of the whole region. A contemporary source (al-Masciidi) states that in 943, the chief of the Rabica, Bisr b. Marwan, also entitled the <<Owner of the Mines?) had at his disposal 3000 horsemen from the Rabica and 30,000 from the Hadariba i.e. the Beja Muslims. A descendent of this Bisr, called Abui l-Makarim Hibat Allah, was rewarded with the title of Kanz al-Dawla or the Treasure of the State for his collaboration with the Fatimid Caliph al-Hakim, to capture AbM Rakwa, the Umayyad rebel, in ioo6. This title was used by his successors who became known as Banil l-Kanz and who became a local force whose authority covered much of al-Manls and the Land of the Mines 1. In time the produce of the mines decreased gradually until it stopped completely about the middle of the fourteenth century and they were smothered with sand. The reasons for this decline were probably due to the simple exhaustion of the best mines, the attacks of the Beja and the Arab tribes and also because the produce did not cover the expenses. Hence those engaged in ming activities started to search for other occupations further to the south. The Arab migration to the Beja country was not confined to the Land of the Mines, but reached as far as Khor Nubt about seventy miles north-east of Haiya station, near Sinkat, where the remains of an Arab colony that dates from 825-94I were discovered. Its inhabitants were probably engaged in rearing and trading in camels which played an important role in the conveyance of goods between the mines, the Nile and the Red Sea Ports [/QUOTE]Let's not forgot that turks were there two. Sudan Beja (Pastoralists; n=42; Afro-Asiatic, Cushitic?) 2/42 = 4.8% A3b2-M13 - Nilotic 7/42 = 16.7% E1b1b-M215(xE1b1b1a-M7.8. - North East Africa 2/42 = 4.8% E1b1b1a1-V12(xE1b1b1a1b-V32) North East Africa 13/42 = 31.0% E1b1b1a1b-V32 -North East Africa 15/42 = 35.7% J-12f2(xJ2-M172) Arabic 1/42 = 2.4% J2-M172 -Arabic 2/42 = 4.8% R1b1-P25 - Chadic So this means 38.1% of the beja have arab admixture and the rest do not. J2 is either mamluk or turk or both. All three invaders dna in these profiles are in modern sudan. Modern Dna info is more detailed and clear for sudan that egypt. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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