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[QUOTE]Originally posted by dana marniche: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Firewall: [qb] I know this forum zetaboards is a racist forum,but here some interesting talk about arabs and arabians. stonesheep - [QUOTE] You can't really say Yemenis are "authentic Arabs" since they're descended largely from the Himyaris, Sabeans, Mineans, Hadhramites, etc... who were, technically, not considered Arabs, but were being gradually Arabized from the 1st century AD onwards. In fact these South Arabian people drew distinctions between themselves and the Arab tribes living to their north. Most "authentic" Arabs are probably bedouins of central/north Arabian deserts and Jordanian and Syrian deserts. [/QUOTE]Makaha - [QUOTE] I wrote that peninsular arabs are the authentic arabs. Which of course includes Yemenis. But since you bring it up, it seems that arab scholars consider the Yemenis to be the "pure" arabs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribes_of_Arabia The general consensus among 14th century Arabic genealogists is that Arabs are of three kinds: Perishing Arabs (Arabic: العرب البائدة): These are the ancients of whose history little is known. Pure Arabs (Arabic: العرب العاربة): They are from Yemen, originated from the progeny of Ya‘rub bin Yashjub bin Qahtan so were also called Qahtanian Arabs. Arabized Arabs (Arabic: العرب المستعربة): They originated from the progeny of Ishmael the first born son of the patriarch Abraham and the Jurhum tribe, also called ‘Adnani Arabs. Prophet Muhammad is an 'Adnani Arab. [edit] [/QUOTE]Bulletproofpride - [QUOTE] You are wrong How can people say that Arabs from the North ( Adnani Arabs ) are real and yemenese are not Arabs when in fact it was a tribe called jurhum that took care of Isma3eel and his mother in Makkah. It was from this tribe that Isma3eel learned Arabic. Yes Southerns didn't speak Arabic but the term Arabic is used in wrong way at the beginning. Basically, any Semite that lived in Arabia was considered an Arab. The Semitic dialect of the Qur'an is just one of the many languages/dialects spoken in Arabian peninsula. You can't use this dialect as the center of Arabness. In fact yemense call the peninsula " AL-jazeeratul 'arab." The Southern distinguished themselves because they are Qathani instead of Adnani and had a civilization going on in the south that made them look superior. [/QUOTE]stonesheep - [QUOTE] Those are just Biblical stories. The "Qahtanite" Arabs are a mix of the Arab tribes of Central Arabia and the local Sabean or Himyarite Yemenites, who did not speak Arabic or consider themselves Arabs, until they were Arabized by the aforementioned Arab tribes in the centuries preceding Islam. By Muhammad's time Arabia had been fully "Arabized", as strange as that sounds. The true ancient Arab homeland was the deserts of central/north Arabia and the Levant/Mesopotamia deserts. Exactly, they did not speak Arabic thus they were not Arabs. From their records we also know they did not consider themselves Arabs originally. They were South Arabians geographically, but not Arabs. By the time Islam came about they were already Arabized however. Edited by stonesheep, Sep 28 2012, 10:41 PM. [/QUOTE] http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/2028229/1/ [/qb][/QUOTE]Why are you posting the opinions of neo-Neandernazis Firewall. They are not modern scholars. And that is NOT what scholars believe. The Arab dialect evolved out of early semitic dialects of the original Arabians. AND THERE IS NO SCHOLAR ON THE PLANET EARTH THAT CLAIMS ARABIC COMES FROM SYRIANS. Nazis are nuts not academics with little knowledge about who the ARABS were and are, THEY ARE NOT WORTH RESPONDING TO. :( [/QB][/QUOTE]
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