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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Clyde Winters: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Mike111: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Clyde Winters: [qb] The theory lacks any foundation. The Olmec came to America circa 1200 BC--not 3000BC. Moreover there is not archaeological evidence linking the Olmecs to any South American culture. Secondly, the Kassites were not related to Indus Valley culture bearers. They are separated by hundreds of years. [/qb][/QUOTE]Clyde - As you know, I have always felt that the Olmec were far older in the Americas than that. And further, that they were originally an Asian people - Xia or Shang specifically. It' been years since I looked into the Olmec civilization, so imagine my surprise to see that the rest of the world is coming my way. Note this from the current Wiki on the Olmec. [b]The beginnings of Olmec civilization have traditionally been placed between 1400 and 1200 BCE. Recent finds of Olmec remains ritually deposited at El Manati shrine (near San Lorenzo) moved this back to "at least" 1600–1500 BCE. It seems that the Olmec had their roots in early farming cultures of Tabasco, which began between 5100 BCE and 4600 BCE. These shared the same basic food crops and technologies of the later Olmec civilization. What is today called Olmec first appeared fully within the city of San Lorenzo Tenochtitlán, where distinctive Olmec features occurred around 1400 BCE. The rise of civilization was assisted by the local ecology of well-watered alluvial soil, as well as by the transportation network provided by the Coatzacoalcos River basin. This environment may be compared to that of other ancient centers of civilization: the Nile, Indus, and Yellow River valleys, and Mesopotamia. This highly productive environment encouraged a densely concentrated population, which in turn triggered the rise of an elite class. The elite class created the demand for the production of the symbolic and sophisticated luxury artifacts that define Olmec culture. Many of these luxury artifacts were made from materials such as jade, obsidian, and magnetite, which came from distant locations and suggest that early Olmec elites had access to an extensive trading network in Mesoamerica. The source of the most valued jade, for example, is found in the Motagua River valley in eastern Guatemala, and Olmec obsidian has been traced to sources in the Guatemala highlands, such as El Chayal and San Martín Jilotepeque, or in Puebla, distances ranging from 200 to 400 km (120–250 miles) away, respectively.[/b] [/qb][/QUOTE]There is no evidence of continuity between Olmec and other Mexican cultures until the arrival of the Mande speaking Xi, after 1200 BC. The Manati site dates back to 1700 BC, but the Olmec cultural elements only date to the Macayal Phase (ca. 1040 BCE ± 150 years). The wooden busts relating to the Olmec art were all found in this later phase. The presence of Olmec artifacts at Manati dating to the Macayal phase supports the dating of the arrivel of the Olmec around 1200BC. I would have no diffuculty in accepting a Chinese root to the Olmecs, because the Xia and some of the Shang spoke a Mande language and they also called themselves Xi, but the Xia and Shang people were situated in North China far from the Sea. At this time other Blacks were in South China, who helped spread the early megalithic culture into East Asia and the Pacific. . [/QB][/QUOTE]
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