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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Clyde Winters: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by lamin: [qb] Clyde, When you do research in the natural and social sciences one is free to develop whatever theories one thinks fit. But the ultimate test is the robustness and evidence of the theories. Hypotheses remain just hypotheses unless they can be show to be empirically valid. You see to go on the assumption that nature is static and that floral and faunal biological nature--of which humans are a part--are not subject to the principles of biological evolution. Genotypical and phenotypical mutations are what explain the rich variety found in any number of species. I have seen Asian Indians, Chinese, Europeans, West Asian Arabs in Africa and have carefully noted their phenotypes. They look that way because the original African type had to adapt to new environments plus factors such as genetic drift, assorted mating, expressing their influence. Asian Indians no matter how dark--I have seen some in Africa--are never mistaken for Africans--even in North Africa. The same for East Asians and Lebanese--who may be migrants to North Africa over the last centuries but are distinct in phenotype from indigenous North Africans. I have also seen Native Americans up close in visits to the U.S. and they do seem to have affinity with East Asians especially by the hair and other features. Except in cases of admixtures they are easily distinguishable from the generic black and white person. This is empirical observation, Clyde. It is a fact that skulls and crania distinct from the the larger populations have been found in the Americas--Luzia and Kennewick man, for example--the general and larger indigenous populations are claimed to be phnotypically distinct, hence the very noted interest in the origins of these 2 crania. It is claimed that mutations take place every 10,000 years but they are manifest only at the DNA level. The importance of DNA analysis is that it shows up things like "most recent common ancestor" and the separation time between peoples. But it is the environment and climate that determine the phenotype of populations. Thus while Fijians, New Guineans(hence the name imposed on them by Europeans when they first saw them), Andaman Islanders, etc. strongly resemble Africans, their separation time from Africa may be longer than for peoples who who do not share the African phenotype--North East Asians, Europeans, etc. Clyde, the point is that humans began as Africans but have changed over the millenia due to the genetic and environmental reasons given above. The time it too to effect such changes are some 40 tom 50,000 years ago--especially when climatic change is factored in. Humans have proven that point when they artificially bred to wolf to produce totally un-wolf like looking dogs like the Chow and the Poodle. [/qb][/QUOTE]lamin: humans have not changed that much. The division today between Blacks in Asia and Africans is an artificial division made be Europeans to confuse and mislead. Granted the Andamanese are ancient migrants to Asia--but the Melanesians only recently came on the scene. In fact the languages they speak and placenames are identical to contemporary placenames in West Africa. See article below: http://www.cibtech.org/J-LIFE-SCIENCES/PUBLICATIONS/2014/Vol-4-No-3/JLS-103-JLS-073-JUN-CLYDE-AFRICAN-MELANESIANS.pdf . [/QB][/QUOTE]
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