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[QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [QB] [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7a/Portrait_of_James_Francis_Edward_Stuart_by_Antonio_David.jpg/640px-Portrait_of_James_Francis_Edward_Stuart_by_Antonio_David.jpg[/IMG] King James III, James Francis Edward Stuart, by Antonio David, 1720 [URL=http://www.ephotobay.com/share/picture-26-200.html] [IMG]http://www.ephotobay.com/image/picture-26-200.png[/IMG][/URL] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Mike111: entourage de francois de troy [b]entourage of francois de troy (Toulouse 1645-1730)[/b] portrait d'un mulatre en armure [b]portrait of a mulatto in armor[/b] François de Troy (1645 – 21 November 1730) was a French painter and engraver who became principal painter to King James II in exile at Saint-Germain-en-Laye and Director of the Académie Royale de peinture et de sculpture. [/QUOTE]If the above painting was of a noble why is the title "Portrait of a Mulatto in Armor" ? Is it because he was half black and they wanted to hide his identity? That just doesn't make sense. Why not just destroy the painting or at least keep it hidden as opposed to being put on sale at a public auction with the picture on view on their publically accessible website? If someone wanted to hide black nobility the first thing you do is destroy this painting at least hide it. In other words, Mike thinks the real James III is the mulatto in the above painting. So why do all these other paintings of James III (only a few I have shown) exist where he looks white? The proposal is that they are all fake. But somehow they forgot to destroy or hide the 'original' mulatto portrait of his true mulatto appearance before they went and made multiple new white portraits of James III. And it's documented and pictured by a famous white owned auction house. That makes no sense. It's childish Anyway Mike says all paintings of this age must have cracking and that since he doesn't have a better close up view he can't tell if it has cracking. Therefore according to Mike it might be fake. Somebody who was to be able to have the most expert opinion would have to see the painting in person, second best a high quality page in a book However not all old paintings crack, there are many variables. I don't think the painting is fake. http://www.historicalportraits.com/Gallery.asp?Page=Item&ItemID=1090&Desc=Prince-James-Francis-Edward-Stuart-%7C-Studio-of-Francois-De-Troy Francois De Troy, one of the leading portraitists at Versaille, was the artist of choice at the Stuart court-in-exile at the chateau of St Germain. Between 1698 and 1711 he produced a series of portraits of James II and his children. He also painted some of the most notable Jacobite supporters, such as Lord Drummond. There are seven separate De Troy likenesses of James, but twenty-six versions were known, which raises the question of De Troy’s personal involvement in each picture. It is, as the author of ‘Portraits of the Stuarts in Exile’ notes, ‘probably impossible to determine which, if any, of the surviving versions were produced by De Troy’s assistants’, who included the noted artist Alexis Simon Belle [Edward Corp, exhibition catalogue, Scottish National Portrait Gallery, 2001, p44]. http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.gettyimages.com/det [URL=http://www.ephotobay.com/share/picture-28-180.html] [IMG]http://www.ephotobay.com/image/picture-28-180.png[/IMG][/URL] Portrait of Prince James Francis Edward Stuart (James III) by Francois De Troy http://www.jacobite.ca/gazetteer/Rome/PalazzoCorsini.htm [IMG]http://www.jacobite.ca/gazetteer/Rome/images/PalazzoCorsini_DeTroy.jpg[/IMG] portrait of King James III when prince (aka James Francis Edward Stuart, The Old Pretender) by Francois De Troy purchased by Cardinal Corsini in 1750 http://www.historicalportraits.com/ [IMG]http://www.historicalportraits.com/ArtWorkImages/1480.JPG[/IMG] portrait of King James III when prince (aka James Francis Edward Stuart, The Old Pretender) 1705c. Studio of Francois De Troy _____________________________________ [IMG]http://www.christies.com/lotfinderimages/d54711/circle_of_francois_de_troy_portrait_of_an_officer_possibly_james_fitzj_d5471188h.jpg[/IMG] Portrait of an officer, possibly James Fitzjames, Duke of Berwick (1670-1734) Circle of François de Troy (Toulouse 1645-1730 Paris) http://www.doylenewyork.com/asp/fullcatalogue.asp?salelot=14CN03+++204+&refno=++854540 [IMG]http://www.doylenewyork.com//Full//540/854540.jpg[/IMG] Portrait of Louis de Bourbon, Count of Vermandois Attributed to Francois de Troy [IMG]http://www.wikigallery.org/paintings/311001-311500/311316/painting1.jpg[/IMG] "Portrait of the Duc de Broglie (1671-1745)" oil on Canvas by a follower of Hyacinthe Rigaud In armour with a velvet- lined, leopard skin mantle and the Sash of the Order of Saint Esprit, the baton of a marshal of France in his left hand _______________________________________________ [b]BIOGRAPHIES OF BLACKS OF NOTE IN TUDOR ENGLAND [/b] http://books.google.com/books/about/Blackamoores_Africans_in_Tudor_England_T.html?id=L9i_AwAAQBAJ ___________________________________ [b] Staying Power: The History of Black People in Britain By Peter Fryer[/b] https://books.google.com/books?id=J8rVeu2go8IC&printsec=frontcover&d . 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