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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Brada-Anansi: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Brada-Anansi: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by kdolo: [qb] The question then is: How many more Spanish nobility are descended from Moors who switched sides.... ?? How many Spanish nobility converted to Islam ???? It looks like alliances where fluid and both sides had factions amongst them who were often at odds. This puts a fresh prespective on the 'limpieza de sangre' obsession and the Inquisition..........an attempt to sort out who was Whom after so many centuries of disorder, switching back and forth, and intermarriage. [/qb][/QUOTE] http://www.scribd.com/doc/50401872/Fairbairn-s-book-of-crests-of-the-families-of-Great-Britain-and-Ireland-1905 Klik here^ scroll down till you get to the names that read Moor,or any alternate spelling these are proper family sir names backed up, crests with black folks on them,also some of the Sir names Black,Blackman, etc. [IMG]http://i.ytimg.com/vi/g2s5tYlGQ_E/hqdefault.jpg[/IMG] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8NGzBlWEWY One of my personal favs.^ You can FF to time 17 that's where he get into the families. [/qb] [QUOTE]"there was a time when we wanted to show you off (people of African descent) as part of the family... They are letting you know the way things used to be -- Jose Piementa Bey' [/QUOTE]I wonder if Jose Piementa Bey believes the Crusdades happened He has that last name "Bey" like the adhearants of the Moorish Science Temple do That have some wacky ideas about history Brada is the above statement compaptible with the motif below ?? [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: Look carefully at this, four decapitated Moor heads >> [IMG]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a9/Creu-Alcoraz-1524-Jeronimo-Martinez-Retablo-San-Jorge.Salvador-Merce-Teruel.jpg/640px-Creu-Alcoraz-1524-Jeronimo-Martinez-Retablo-San-Jorge.Salvador-Merce-Teruel.jpg[/IMG] 1524 Jeronimo Martinez , Saint George altarpiece wikipedia Peter I receiving a shield emblazoned with the Cross of Saint George. According to legend, George appeared on the field of battle at Alcoraz. The heads of four decapitated Moors were also found on the battlefield and, when added to George's familiar emblem, the Cross of Alcoraz was created, which would later form the basis for the Sardinian coat-of-arms. [URL=http://www.ephotobay.com/share/picture-29-136.html] [IMG]http://www.ephotobay.com/image/picture-29-136.png[/IMG][/URL] _____________ [IMG]http://www.ephotobay.com/image/picture-36.png[/IMG] Coat of Arms , Alacandre, La Rioja Spain [/QUOTE]^^^ Brada how can can images of obvious Christian domination over the Muslims, heads chopped off with this idea that coats of arms featuring Moor's heads when as Piementa Bey claims harken back to > a time when they wanted to show you off (people of African descent) as part of the family" You wouldn't be while chopping their heads off at the same time [/qb][/QUOTE]Lioness you simply have to look at each individual crest to know the story behind each crest,some Blacks or Moors in those crest represents victory over Moors, others yet implies family relations of converted or Blacks and their descendants living in Europe before the Moorish conquest,such as Afro Romans who decided to stay but you knew all this before so why be repetitive. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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