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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mindovermatter: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by xyyman: http://egyptsearchreloaded.proboards.com/post/13142/quote/1897?page=1 [qb] Who brought in the gene ?.....Neolithics How did it happen😆? Selective sweep. And I am not taking sexual preference, you will here that excuse a lot. No! It is the simple removal of the constraint. Mekova and Rees et al. What is puzzling is "why"? Europeans remained black for 25ky!!! And Neanderthal was also black skinned for 300,000YEARS!!!! These ancient humaniods essentially remained unchanged until these "new" humans entered . [/qb][/QUOTE]Bump Xyman this is easily explained by this idea that I've wrote on ESR: [QUOTE][b] "Xyman this is my idea on what happened, take a look at this:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics ca. 75,000 - 100,000 Greece 429–426 BC Known as Plague of Athens, because it was primarily in Athens. unknown, similar to typhoid ca. 30% of population Europe, Western Asia, Northern Africa 165–180 Known as Antonine Plague, due to the name of the Roman emperor in power at the time. unknown, symptoms similar to smallpox Europe 250-266 AD Know as the Plague of Cyprian named after St. Cyprian Bishop of Carthage. unknown, possibly smallpox ca. 40% of population Europe 541–542 Known as Plague of Justinian, due to the name of the Byzantine emperor in power at the time. Bubonic plague [1] 30% to 70% of population Europe 1346–1350 Known as "Black Death" or Second plague pandemic, first return of the plague to Europe after the Justinianic plague of the 6th century. plague Plagues and disease outbreaks in early Europe. " Obviously Europe's original population were wiped out by these plagues and diseases, and these were the black Europeans. Also Black Europe's civilizations started declining population wise, and the women were not having enough children and became decadent. Society started becoming meaningless and vapid and decadent and hedonistic, because of this Black/Brown Europeans started declining in numbers in population. Then this happened: "The Migration Period, better known as the Barbarian Invasions also referred to as the Völkerwanderung (in German),[1] was a period of intensified barbarian invasion in Europe, often defined from the period when it seriously impacted the Roman world, as running from about 376 to 800 AD[2][3] during the transition from Late Antiquity to the Early Middle Ages. This period was marked by profound changes both within the Roman Empire and beyond its "barbarian frontier". The barbarians who came first were Germanic tribes such as the Goths, Vandals, Angles, Saxons, Lombards, Suebi, Frisii, Jutes and Franks; they were later pushed westwards by the Huns, Avars, Slavs, Bulgars and Alans.[4] Later barbarian invasions (such as the Viking, Norman, Hungarian, Moorish, Turkic, and Mongol invasions) also had significant effects (especially in North Africa, the Iberian peninsula, Anatolia and Central and Eastern Europe); however, they are outside the scope of the Migration Period" These people became the mainstream white europeans and re-populated Europe in huge numbers becoming the modern white people we associate with Europeans. The Black Europeans were already outnumbered and overrun and only consisted of a little less then half the population of Europe proper during this time period. Then this happened: https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-51709-post-1150682.html#pid1150682 "You don't know your history. Most of those Greeks and Romans had disappeared in the Western half of the Roman Empire by 400 AD due to insufficient birthrates. Both the women and men were corrupted, with few caring about creating strong families. The men constantly seeking power and engaged in costly civil wars while the women were vapid and materialistic. Well over 80% of the fresh population into Southern and Western Europe came from the Germanic Barbarians. We know this because the Latin language all but disappeared (as it's practitioners went extinct) and the only people who survived to chronicle it all were the Christian monks and scholars who also were the only literate ones, along with a small class of Latin Roman nobles. Meanwhile, in the Eastern Roman Empire, Latin was already dying out to be replaced by Greek. The Greeks in Turkey would end up meeting an unfortunate fate and they too would die out due to plagues, invasion, and political corruption, while Western Europe made a comeback. The barbarians who became the majority of Europe's ancestors were clannish to the extreme; I have read accounts where if one family so much as insulted another family, it would result in both families engaging in a brawl to the death. Things as simple as accidentally taking someone else's fork in a Tavern could result in the death of dozens. Inbreeding was rampant as trust between families was very low. Disease, malnutrition, birth death for mothers, defects, etc. was very common. It was the Christian survivors of Rome who began the arduous process of converting the barbarians, and one of their major accomplishments was to break down the rigid clans whose patriarchs could dictate life and death of all it's members. Christians also taught these barbarians the rule of law and to hold individuals accountable rather than entire families guilty for the crime of just one member. Finally, the Christians rounded up the many single children and bastard children of the last Romans, and intermarried them into the Germanic barbarian population. Now, would Whites have survived without Christianity? Maybe. But I don't need to contest that. I just need to show that the vast majority of Europeans today came from the Christian practices of family and law, that Modern Europeans are successful hybrid creations between Germanic barbarians and the last Romans, and that it was the only real force for legal authority for nearly 1000 years in Western Europe after Western Rome's collapse whose traditions remained dominant well into the 20th century. However, my personal opinion is that the Whites would have remained in the bronze age or close to it without Christianity. I infer this because the Byzantines encountered many different groups of White Alpine people's to the north of the Baltic sea as well as in the Balkans who were all pagan. Again, these Whites were extremely violent, illiterate, clannish, and brutish by any comparison to a White today or a Byzantine Greek back then. They were further behind on the evolutionary scale. It wasn't until the Byzantines managed to convert these peoples around them did their ascent into a stronger civilization began. To support my thesis that Whites would not be anything today without Christianity, many of these same White groups (Russians, Hungarians, Slovakians, etc.) who converted ended up being the same White groups to resist Islam after they conquered the Byzantines in 1453 and keep them out of Europe. Just like the Crusades, without Christianity to unite the Whites they would have fallen separately to Islamic invasion, and there are many accounts to attest to this. So, to recap, this isn't crazy history, this all happened and there is extensive research into this subject already. I learned about it after reading a book by Harvard professor called Family and Civilization by Carle C. Zimmerman (a Talmudic Jew, so we know it's not just some Christian apologist who wants to make his faith look good) who spoke fluent Latin and Greek and read quite literally thousands of ancient sources before concluding on the above thesis. This book was his life's achievement. Many, many writers back in ancient times talked about the birth dearth, as well as the Christians efforts to civilize the Germanic hordes. Eventually, the Germanic barbarians stopped speaking their Gallic tongues but did not speak Latin either; the fusion between Gallic and Latin became what we know today as "Italian." By the time Dante wrote his Inferno in 1300, Italian had become the de facto language of the country and Dante's work is widely considered the first real Italian story to set the standard of the language. Also, for those who are curious: Spanish = Arab (from their Moorish rulers) + Latin French = Latin + Nordics Modern English = Old English + French The evolution of languages can tell us what groups were reproducing and where. Thus, when you see those ancient pictures of Socrates above, know that you are looking at a strain of White genes that almost went extinct before Christianity saved it to create the far more superior Whites out of barbarian stock." Besides the Ancient Greeks being white part which is wrong, this is exactly how it was in Europe with barbarian tribes back then. Europe becoming overpopulated with central asian albino's and other albino's and so conflict occurred naturally: "1066 Norman Conquest 1096 - 1291 Crusades 1096 - 1099 First Crusade 1101 Crusade of 1101 1147 - 1149 Second Crusade 1187 - 1191 Third Crusade 1202 - 1204 Fourth Crusade 1209 - 1229 Albigensian Crusade 1212 Children's Crusade (Often believed to be just a story) 1217 - 1221 Fifth Crusade 1228 Sixth Crusade 1248 - 1254 Seventh Crusade 1270 Eighth Crusade 1271 - 1291 Ninth Crusade 1293 - 1323 War between Sweden and Novgorod ended up with Treaty of Nöteborg 1296 - 1328 First War of Scottish Independence 1332 - 1333 Second War of Scottish Independence 1337 - 1453 Hundred Years' War 1341 - 1364 Breton War of Succession 1420 - 1436 Hussite Wars 1454 - 1466 Thirteen Years' War. Between Poland and Teutonic Knights, which finally broke the power of the latter. 1455 - 1485 Wars of the Roses 1474 - 1477 War between the Duchy of Burgundy and the Swiss Confederation 1478 - War between the Principality of Moscow and the Republic of Novgorod. The latter was conquered. 1494 - 1559 Italian Wars 1494 - 1498 Charles VIII's Italian War 1499 - 1500 Louis XII's war with Milan 1500 - 1502 Franco-Spanish Conquest of Naples 1502 - 1505 Franco-Spanish War over Naples 1508 - 1510 War of the League of Cambrai 1510 - 1513 War of the Holy League 1511 - 1514 Anglo-French War 1513 Anglo-Scottish War (Battle of Flodden) 1515 - 1516 Francis I's first Italian war 1521 - 1525 First war of Francis and Charles V 1521-1525 Anglo-French War 1526 - 1529 War of the League of Cognac 1536 - 1538 Third War of Francis and Charles 1542 - 1544 Last War of Francis and Charles 1542 - 1546 Anglo-French War 1542 - 1550 Anglo-Scottish War 1549 - 1550 Anglo-French War 1552 - 1559 Last Italian War 1557 - 1559 Anglo-French War 1495 - 1497 Russo-Swedish War 1499 - 1503 Turkish-Venetian War1509 - 1513 Ottoman Civil War 1514 - 1516 Ottoman-Safavid War 1515 - 1523 Rebellion of the Frisians 1516 - 1517 Ottoman-Mamluk War 1521 - 1523 The Swedish War of Liberation 1521 - 1523 Uprising of the Comuneros in Castile 1521 - 1526 Ottoman-Hungarian War 1522 Ottoman Conquest of Rhodes 1522 The Knights' War in Germany 1524 - 1525 The Peasants' War in Germany 1526 - 1528 Hungarian Civil War 1526 - 1555 Ottoman-Safavid War 1528 - 1533 Ottoman-Habsburg War in Hungary 1531 Swiss Civil War between Zürich and the Catholic cantons 1532 - 1546 Ottoman-Habsburg War in the Mediterranean 1533 - 1536 The Counts' War in Denmark 1537 - 1544 Renewed Ottoman-Habsburg War in Hungary 1546 - 1547 Schmalkaldic War 1551 - 1562 Ottoman-Habsburg War in Hungary 1551 - 1581 Ottoman-Habsburg War in the Mediterranean (Battle of Lepanto (1571)) 1552 - 1555 Charles V's war with Maurice of Saxony 1554 - 1557 Great Russian War 1557 - 1571 Livonian War 1559 - 1560 Scottish Rebellion against the French 1562 - 1598 Wars of Religion in France, also called War of the Three Henries or Huguenot Wars 1562 - 1563 First War of Religion 1567 - 1568 Second War of Religion 1568 - 1570 Third War of Religion 1572 - 1573 Fourth War of Religion 1575 - 1576 Fifth War of Religion 1576 - 1577 Sixth War of Religion 1580 Seventh War of Religion (Lovers' War) 1585 - 1598 Eighth War of Religion 1589 - 1598 Franco-Spanish War 1562 - 1568 Ottoman-Habsburg War in Hungary 1563 - 1570 Northern Seven Years' War also known as Dano-Swedish War 1566 (or 1568) - 1648 Eighty Years' War (war of Dutch independence) 1566(or 1568) - 1609 First Phase 1621 - 1648 Second Phase 1567 - 1573 Scottish Civil War 1568 - 1571 Morisco Revolt in Spain 1570 - 1595 Twenty-five Years' War between Sweden and Russia 1577 - 1582 Livonian War (Poland vs. Russia) 1577 - 1590 Turkish-Persian War 1580 - 1583 Portuguese Civil War 1585 - 1604 Anglo-Spanish War (Spanish Armada, 1588) 1590 - 1606 "Long War" between the Empire and the Turks 1594 - 1603 Tyrone Rebellion in Ireland 1596 - 1597 The Cudgel War in Finland 1600 - 1611 Polish-Swedish War 1602 - 1612 Turkish-Persian War 1609 - 1618 Russo-Polish War 1610 - 1617 Ingrian War between Sweden and Russia 1611 - 1613 War of Kalmar between Sweden and Denmark 1613 - 1617 Russo-Swedish War 1614 - 1621 Polish-Turkish War 1616 - 1618 Turkish-Persian War 1617 - 1629 Polish-Swedish War 1618 - 1648 Thirty Years' War across Europe, ends with the Peace of Westphalia. 1618 - 1625 Bohemian/Palatine Phase 1618 - 1629 Austro-Transylvanian War 1625 - 1629 Danish Phase 1625 - 1630 Anglo-Spanish War 1626 - 1630 Anglo-French War 1627 - 1631 War of the Mantuan Succession 1630 - 1635 Swedish Phase 1635 - 1648 French Phase 1635 - 1659 Franco-Spanish War (ending with the Treaty of the Pyrenees) 1645 Renewed Austro-Transylvanian War 1623 - 1638 Turkish-Persian War 1625 - 1629 Huguenot Uprising in France 1632 - 1634 Russo-Polish War 1634 Polish-Swedish War 1637 Pequot War 1639 - 1652 English Civil War 1639 First Bishops' War 1640 Second Bishops' War 1641 - 1650 Irish War 1642 - 1646 First Civil War 1648 Second Civil War 1650 - 1652 Scottish Uprising 1640 - 1656 Catalan Revolt 1640 - 1668 Portuguese War of Independence 1645 - 1670 Turkish-Venetian War 1648 - 1653 The Fronde 1648 - 1649 First Fronde 1650 - 1653 Second Fronde 1648 - 1660 The Deluge/Northern Wars, A series of wars involving Poland, Sweden, Brandenburg, Russia and Transylvania and Denmark 1648 - 1654 Cossack Revolt against Poland 1654 - 1656 Russo-Polish War 1655 - 1656 Swedish-Brandenburg War 1655 - 1660 Polish-Swedish War 1656 - 1658 Russo-Swedish War 1656 - 1660 Danish-Swedish War 1657 - 1660 Dutch-Swedish War 1658 - 1667 Russo-Polish War 1652 - 1654 First Anglo-Dutch War 1656 - 1659 Anglo-Spanish War 1657 - 1662 Turkish-Transylvanian War 1662 - 1664 Austro-Turkish War 1665 - 1667 Second Anglo-Dutch War preceded by the capture of New Amsterdam, renamed New York City 1667 - 1668 War of Devolution 1671 - 1676 Polish-Turkish War 1672 - 1678 Dutch War 1672 - 1674 Third Anglo-Dutch War 1672 - 1679 War between Brandenburg and Sweden 1675 - 1679 Scanian War between Sweden and Denmark 1675 - 1676 King Philip's War 1678 - 1681 Russo-Turkish War 1682 - 1699 War of the Holy League (Austria, Venice, and Poland vs. Ottomans 1685 Monmouth's Rebellion 1688 - 1697 War of the Grand Alliance 1689 - 1691 Irish Jacobite Uprising 1695 - 1700 Russo-Turkish War 1700 - 1721 Great Northern War between a coalition of Denmark/Norway, Russia and Saxony/Poland on one side and Sweden on the other side 1710 - 1711 Russo-Turkish War, 1710-11, a part of the Great Northern War 1715 - 1717 Polish revolt against King Augustus II 1701 - 1714 War of Spanish Succession 1702 - 1713 Queen Anne's War The North American part of the War of Spanish Succession 1703 - 1711 Hungarian Revolt 1714 - 1718 Turko-Venetian War 1715 - 1716 Jacobite Rebellion also known as "The Fifteen" 1716 - 1718 Austro-Turkish War 1718 - 1720 War of the Quadruple Alliance 1722 - 1723 Russo-Persian War 1722-1723 1722 - 1727 Turco-Persian War 1727 - 1729 largely bloodless Spanish war with England and France 1730 - 1736 Turco-Persian War 1733 - 1738 War of the Polish Succession 1736 - 1739 Russo-Turkish War 1737 - 1739 Austro-Turkish War 1740 - 1748 War of the Austrian Succession 1739 - 1748 War of Jenkins' Ear 1740 - 1742 1st Silesian War 1741 - 1743 Hats' Russian War between Sweden and Russia 1744 - 1748 King George's War The North American part of the War of Austrian Succession 1744 - 1745 2nd Silesian War 1744 - 1748 First Carnatic War 1745 - 1746 "The Forty-five" 1743 - 1747 Turco-Persian War 1749 - 1754 Second Carnatic War 1756 - 1763 Seven Years' War, known as the French and Indian War in the United States, and also 3rd Silesian War 1761 - 1763 Spanish-Portuguese War 1763 - 1766 Pontiac's Rebellion 1768 - 1774 Russo-Turkish War 1768 - 1776 War of the Confederation of Bar in Poland 1773 - 1774 Pugachev's Rebellion 1774 - 1783 First Anglo-Maratha War 1775 - 1783 American Revolutionary War 1778 - 1783 Anglo-French War 1779 - 1783 Anglo-Spanish War 1780 - 1784 Anglo-Dutch War 1777 - 1779 War of the Bavarian Succession 1785 - 1787 Dutch Civil War 1787 - 1791 Austro-Turkish War 1787 - 1792 Russo-Turkish War 1788 - 1790 Gustav III's Russian War also known as Russo-Swedish War 1791 - 1804 Haiti Revolutionary War 1792 War in defence of the constitution in Poland 1792 - 1802 French Revolutionary Wars 1792 - 1797 War of the First Coalition 1792 - 1795 Franco-Prussian War 1792 - 1797 Franco-Austrian War 1793 - 1795 Franco-Spanish War 1793 - 1795 Franco-Dutch War 1793 - 1802 Franco-British War 1798 - 1801 War of the Second Coalition 1798 - 1799 Franco-Russian War 1799 - 1801 Franco-Austrian War 1798 - 1801 Quasi War 1794 Kosciuszko Uprising in Poland 1795 - 1798 United Irishmen Revolt Combined with this": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age "The Little Ice Age (LIA) was a period of cooling that occurred after the Medieval Warm Period (Medieval Climate Optimum).[1] While it was not a true ice age, the term was introduced into the scientific literature by François E. Matthes in 1939.[2] It has been conventionally defined as a period extending from the sixteenth to the nineteenth centuries,[3][4][5] or alternatively, from about 1300[6] to about 1850,[7][8][9] although climatologists and historians working with local records no longer expect to agree on either the start or end dates of this period, which varied according to local conditions. The NASA Earth Observatory notes three particularly cold intervals: one beginning about 1650, another about 1770, and the last in 1850, each separated by intervals of slight warming.[5] The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change Third Assessment Report considered the timing and areas affected by the LIA suggested largely independent regional climate changes, rather than a globally synchronous increased glaciation. At most there was modest cooling of the Northern Hemisphere during the period.[10] Several causes have been proposed: cyclical lows in solar radiation, heightened volcanic activity, changes in the ocean circulation, an inherent variability in global climate, or DECREASES in the human population" The Black Europeans were all exterminated, absorbed, died or sent to the new world as slaves after and during all this happening. Then this happened: "Now you don't seem to understand the big picture of my theory/idea and the significance of it in explaining who these european albino's are. Otherwise you would realize just how relevant it is. When we look at traditional "white groups" in Europe, such as Germans/Scandinavians/Irish/ etc etc etc, we find a confusing set of DNA patterns and genes. First we find that even modern day Europeans have major non-white haplogroups as their primary DNA markers, and they are primarily from different areas of the globe. We find that they have afro-asiatic haplogroup R1b and Eurasian haplogroup R1a and a spattering of other african rooted black genes as well. Accordingly they should be pretty dark and "normal" looking which they aren't. Except for areas in Southern Europe, even the Europeans with african or foreign haplogroups are extremely white looking or just not "normal" looking. The obvious explanation is of course albinism, but what gets confusing is the combination of genes that they have and why White Europeans look distinct from even Dravidian and African albino's to an extent, which you can see if you look at pictures carefully. It seems as though they are a distinct race of albino's that even the skeptic will find it hard to believe they are albino's just based on their distinctive looks alone. So there has to be an explanation; Cavorlli-Savofza and all the genetic studies proves the genetics of these "white groups" and how black rooted and dravidian rooted they are but still the puzzle remains as to their distinct appearance from other albino populations. Yet these people are some of the most albino looking on earth and yet how did they come to be so white, despite carrying all these dark group genes like R1b and R1a? And how did they evolve as a distinct group themselves from the rest of the planet? Even the albino Nuristani, Kalash, and Afghans look kinda different from white Europeans despite sharing similar genes like R1a! And how come there are so many of them in Europe today when albinism is rare? Surely the climate of Europe has to be favorable to someone with albinism as well as the geography. So my explanation is the answer to all this: Here is what happened in simple terms: 1)Europe was settled by Blacks from Africa, some of whom had albino's of their own, as seen by the blue eyes of the hunter gatherers there A MAJOR CLUE! They carried genetic haplogroup R1b and genes like I etc etc. 2) The favorable climate of Europe towards these albino's who carried R1b, allowed them to seek refuge in caves, in mountains and in the northern parts of Europe, allowing them to inbreed with each other and hide from black europeans. They breed a sizable population of themselves in Europe. 3) Europe still had a sizable black European population all over, and they start giving these Black European albino's, who carried R1b, the tanzanian treatment and start attacking and enslaving them and preventing them into their civilizations in Europe. 4) The Dravidian albino's have started settling Eurasia and Central Asia/Siberia in general, aka the Kurgan people; they start tearing down forests and just being expansionary people. They hear about more fertile places and better places in Europe, the Middle East, South Asia etc. Competition with themselves and Mongoloids bring them to arrive in these locations in waves with the horse. These people carried haplogroup R1a, and are mostly R1a in genetic composition, they are the present day dravidian albino's of Eastern Europe and the Baltics who are also mostly R1a. 5) The first wave of Dravidian albino's arrive in Europe and immediately there is conflict between them and the Black Europeans. The Black Europeans are forced to accommodate the Dravidian albino's because they have superior cavalry in terms of how many horses they have brought with them. This results in the greek "centaur myth". 6) The Dravidian albino's breed and mix with the black Europeans AND WITH THE ALBINO BLACK EUROPEANS AS WELL! The Dravidian albino's allowed some of the black European R1b albino's some freedom. 7) There are still Black European albino's scattered across Europe, and in particular northern european since Europe is thickly covered in forests. 8) Fast forward several hundred years, civilizations and societies are popping up all over Europe with the expansion of the Greeks and the Roman empire. Black Europeans start increasing in population AS WELL AS THEIR ALBINO'S WHO CARRIED R1b AND SOME OF THE MIXED R1a/R1b Dravidian Albino/Black European mixed people! 9) Due to conflict, wars, need for more land and resources, more and more Dravidian Albino's start coming in waves like illegal mexican immigrants, INTO EUROPE, as a result of the expansion of the Hunnic/Mongolian empires of the Central Asia steppes, as well their failure to secure land in area in the Middle East due to defeats at the hands of people like the Assyrians. 10) This huge population influx of nomadic steppe barbaric dravidian albino's and the resultant conflict with the Huns/mongoloids, causes a disturbance of the status quo and black european civilizations in Europe. 11) By the time the waves of Dravidian albino's start arriving in Europe, there are already a large number of R1b Black European albino's as WELL AS MIXED R1a DRAVIDIAN/EUROPEAN BLACK MIXED OFF-SPRING! 12) The huge albino migrant population in Europe, hailing from Central Asia, are seen as how Mexicans are seen today in the U.S, by the black Europeans. They start demanding power and start to seek to usurp and take over Europe. 13) They ally with the mixed black Europeans and R1b Black European albino population of Europe and attack Black European society and civilization. They rampage and destroy most of black European civilization such as in the thirty years war and the fall of the Roman empire. THEY HOWEVER MIX WITH THE R1B BLACK EUROPEAN ALBINO POPULATIONS! 14) The Dravidian/Black European Albino mix population have a demographic upperhand and a numerical upperhand in population due to the decline of black European civilization in Europe due to time by now. 15) Eventually the Black Europeans and the mixed non-albino Black Europeans are either exterminated, killed, or sent off to different places but particularly in the New world, by the combination of Black European albino's and Dravidian albino's. 16) This increases and whitens Europe's main demographics tremendously, and the Dravidian and Black European albino's have now bred with each other extensively RESULTING IN MODERN WESTERN/EUROPEAN POPULATIONS TODAY! 17) This explains how Western Europeans and even Central Europeans are so goddamn albino white today DESPITE CARRYING ALL THESE DIFFERENT AFRICAN/WOG GENES AND STILL BEING SO GODDAMN WHITE! 18) This explains the HUGE PRESENCE, of haplogroup R1b in Western Europe, WHICH THE DRAVIDIAN ALBINO'S DO NOT HAVE! If we were to mix a Dravidian albino with a black European, the resultant admixture would be relatively swarthy as we can see in Southern Europe. 19) How does one explain then how North-Western European populations are so white today, despite genetically being the admixture of Black Europeans/and Dravidian albino's as seen by their sharing of haplo R1a and R1b? The ANSWER IS OBVIOUS! THEY ARE THE RESULT OF BLACK EUROPEANS ALBINO'S AND DRAVIDIAN EURASIAN ALBINO'S MIXING AND BREEDING WITH EACH OTHER, THIS GENETIC DIVERSITY ALLOWED THEM TO BREED A LARGE POPULATION, WHERAS PREVIOUSLY THEY WERE TOO INBRED TO BREED A LARGE POPULATION! THE CLIMATE OF EUROPE ALSO HELPED THEM BREED A LARGE POPULATION OF ALBINO'S! THE BLACK EUROPEANS WERE KILLED AND SENT OFF AWAY, ALLOWING THESE TWO ALBINO POPULATIONS TO SAFELY BREED AND CREATE A POPULATION OF THEIR OWN IN WESTERN/NORTHERN EUROPE! So my example of whitening them up IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT ILLUSTRATES HOW MODERN NORTH-WEST EUROPEANS ARE SO ALBINO AND ARE AN ALBINO RACE, YET IT ALSO EXPLAINS HOW MODERN WESTERN EUROPEANS LOOK DISTINCT FROM DRAVIDIAN ALBINO'S TODAY! This distinct White European look of Western and northern Europeans, separate to that of albino's elsewhere, IS THE RESULT OF DRAVIDIAN ALBINO'S BREEDING WITH BLACK EUROPEAN ALBINO'S EXCLUSIVELY! Understand everything now guys?" As proved by this: "Mike, you have proved time and time again that Europe had black european populations as evidenced by the picture, which I don't contest or argue against! And you have proved that the albino Basque are extremely inbred and are distant from other white europeans genetically and maybe one of the oldest ancient groups in Europe today according to reports. Now why is it so unbelievable to claim that the albino basque pictured above and WHO LIVE IN EUROPE TODAY, are actually remnants of Black Europe's unmixed albino populations? The Irish and the Albino people from the British Isles have distinct genes and also have haplogroup R1b as a major component and are infact related to the Basque on a genetic level as do the albino French. However the difference between the albino Irish and the albino French, and other albino British Isles from the albino basque people, is that all of them have A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF HAPLOGROUP R1A WHICH HAS ORIGINS IN CENTRAL AND SOUTH ASIA! The albino's of Germany, Scandinavia, the British Isles, France seem to be a HYBRID POPULATION OF CENTRAL ASIAN R1A DRAVIDIAN ALBINO'S AND ALBINO BASQUE R1B LIKE POPULATIONS FROM EUROPE'S ANCIENT PAST! The Basque themselves don't really have central asian albino R1a admixture but are mainly R1b which is not really found in R1a heavy Central and South Asia in significant numbers. Yet we can see in the picture today that the Basque are pretty albino looking as well. So why is it far fetched to claim that Black Europeans had their own albino's and groups like the Basque people with heavy R1b are the REMNANTS OF BLACK EUROPE'S ALBINO POPULATION FROM THE PAST? How could the Basque not be proof that Europe had depopulation periods of Black Europeans, where the black European albino Basque were not affected or targeted by other albino's from Central Asia, and that they mixed with R1a Dravidian Albino's in Western Europe after this black depopulation period to create modern day albino Euro's like Germans, Brits, Swedes, French, Danes, Norwegians, Irish, Scottish, English, Austrians, Belgians, Dutch etc etc etc? AND THERE IS PROOF OF THAT RIGHT HERE! Notice the high percentage of haplogroup R1b in Western Europeans AS OPPOSED TO HAPLOGROUP R1a WHICH IS THE DRAVIDIAN ALBINO EURASIAN STEPPE HAPLOGROUP! The R1b in Europe is more related to albino groups like Ancient European groups like Basque people who are more rooted in Europe then R1a Dravidian albino's from Central Asia and Eastern Europe. Yet we see that modern Western Europeans ARE A HYBRID POPULATION OF DRAVIDIAN ALBINO'S IN THE FORM OF HAPLO R1A AND BASQUE ALBINO'S IN THE FORM OF HAPLO R1B! I'm not trying to contest or challenge you Mike, I just want to refine and expand on already key existing ideas and concepts discovered by you and people at Egyptsearch. And I'm claiming this and doing so, OUT OF RESPECT FOR YOU GUYS! I deeply admire and respect your work and other's work here which is why I don't mock or make fun of people's ideas here, especially yours. So there is no need for the hostility and stand-offish tone. http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=010772;p=2#000071 And voila! You get modern White Europe and the "west/Western civilization" and all the white people/ethnic groups in Europe today!"[/b][/QUOTE]The thing is that we all know the who brought the genes, and the light skin genes are not light skin genes but RATHER ALBINISM GENES! The blue eyed African hunter gatherers HAD OCULAR ALBINISM! So the chances of there being BLACK EUROPEAN ALBINO'S BACK THEN WAS ALSO VERY HIGH! And since countries like black countries like Tanzania have high rates of albinism, this means that the light skin migrants into Europe were none other THEN THE ALBINO'S DESCRIBED IN THE BIBLE, AND Albino BLACK ANATOLIAN MIGRANTS! Those albino's went into take refuge in Northern and Western Europe away from MAJOR POPULATION CENTERS IN EUROPE AT THAT TIME! When plagues began to hit Black Europe's main population centers (mostly in Southern Europe at the time), the light skinned Human albino's started overpopulating Northern Europe, and the Central Asian barbarian migration started happening from the east, THEN THAT IS WHEN DARK SKIN STARTS DISAPPEARING IN EUROPE! People ARE IGNORING PLAGUES AND EPIDEMICS EFFECTS ON DEMOGRAPHICS! Mike and yourself also fail to understand the major effects of this. With outbreaks and plagues like the BUBONIC PLAGUE and THE BLACK DEATH, THE MAJOR POPULATION CENTERS IN EUROPE WERE WIPED CLEAN! Then there was the MINI ICE AGE! You have a MAJOR climatic shift and weather change that WIPED OUT MAJOR SEGMENTS OF EUROPE'S ORIGINAL DARK POPULATIONS! This means that the original Black European populations were killed mostly AND NOT THE NORTHERN LIGHT ALBINO PEOPLES IN EUROPE HIDING IN THE FORESTS! Once the plagues, climate ice age weather and various wars had already taken place, Black Europe was vulnerable to barbarian and outside aggression. This paved the way for a major demographic change with albino's taking over Europe. This HAS to explain HOW EUROPE BECAME WHITE! [/QB][/QUOTE]
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