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kdolo
Member # 21830
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I read somewhere that the black basalt was specifically used to denote skin tone ( i am not sure if true or not)

....in any event, this bust was commissioned by Cleopatra (allegedly)

Was Caesar Black ???

We know that most of the museum marbles are renaissance to 1800s era fakes....


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mena7
Member # 20555
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Kodlo you remind me of a thread by Malibudusul who stated that an Italian writer was going to write a book that say Julius Caesar was of Ethiopian descent.

Mario Bonafini states Julius Caesar was Black.
http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=007432

Do You remember of this??

http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=8&t=006793#000024

http://derekclontz.wordpress.com/2008/06/24/new-study-proves-it-julius-caesar-was-black-and-from-africa/


"New study proves it, Julius Caesar was black – and from Africa

Controversial historian Mario Bonafini received hundreds of death threats and was actually forced into hiding after an unnamed insider leaked a pre-publication copy of his explosive new book, Julius Caesar Was NOT Italian"
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Fishermen and sea creatures, mosaic, 1st century AD
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http://www.csa.com/discoveryguides/fish/review2.php
 
the lioness,
Member # 17353
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Julius Caesar Bust - 44 BCE - Egypt


quote:
Originally posted by kdolo:
I read somewhere that the black basalt was specifically used to denote skin tone ( i am not sure if true or not)

....in any event, this bust was commissioned by Cleopatra (allegedly)

Was Caesar Black ???

We know that most of the museum marbles are renaissance to 1800s era fakes....

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^^^ so this might be fake, right ?
 
kdolo
Member # 21830
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Yes could be
 
Troll Patrol # Ish Gebor
Member # 18264
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The bust is carved of green basanite with minor restorations to the ear and drapery; the carving of the inlaid marble eyes is not ancient. The stone and style of the bust suggest that it was made in Egypt. Berlin, Altes Museum. Credits: Barbara McManus, 2012
 
Habsburg
Member # 21824
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quote:
Originally posted by mena7:
Kodlo you remind me of a thread by Malibudusul who stated that an Italian writer was going to write a book that say Julius Caesar was of Ethiopian descent.

Mario Bonafini states Julius Caesar was Black.
http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=007432

Do You remember of this??

http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=8&t=006793#000024

http://derekclontz.wordpress.com/2008/06/24/new-study-proves-it-julius-caesar-was-black-and-from-africa/


"New study proves it, Julius Caesar was black – and from Africa

Controversial historian Mario Bonafini received hundreds of death threats and was actually forced into hiding after an unnamed insider leaked a pre-publication copy of his explosive new book, Julius Caesar Was NOT Italian"
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Fishermen and sea creatures, mosaic, 1st century AD
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http://www.csa.com/discoveryguides/fish/review2.php

Has anyone here checked the story? Is it genuine or is it made up. Some more checking is required before believing it. From what I have see of it appears to be a fabricated one.
 
the lioness,
Member # 17353
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quote:
Originally posted by Habsburg:
Has anyone here checked the story? Is it genuine or is it made up. Some more checking is required before believing it. From what I have see of it appears to be a fabricated one.

Nobody checked it. The way it works on Egyptsearch is if you like it you accept it and don't worry about checking
 
the lioness,
Member # 17353
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quote:
Originally posted by Troll Patrol # Ish Gebor:
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The bust is carved of green basanite with minor restorations to the ear and drapery; the carving of the inlaid marble eyes is not ancient. The stone and style of the bust suggest that it was made in Egypt. Berlin, Altes Museum. Credits: Barbara McManus, 2012

^^ This is the full reference>

bust of Julius Caesar—front, Roman, c 1-50 CE

The bust is carved of green basanite with minor restorations to the ear and drapery; the carving of the inlaid marble eyes is not ancient. The stone and style of the bust suggest that it was made in Egypt. Berlin, Altes Museum. Credits: Barbara McManus, 2012

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The sculptute is believed to have been made 1-50 AD and the inlaid eyes later

British Museum citation

https://www.britishmuseum.org/explore/online_tours/egypt/cleopatra_history_to_myth/basanite_bust_of_julius_caesar.aspx

This portrait is most likely an image of Caesar made fifty years or more after his murder in 44 BC. The stone is from Wadi Hamamat in Upper Egypt, and the facial structure, with high cheekbones and prominent chin, is reminiscent of many Egyptian portraits.

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This portrait bust of Julius Caesar has been found at the bottom of the Rhone River at Arles, France.

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Archaeologists believe it was sculpted while he was still alive, perhaps two years before his assassination.


The one bust that was known to have been carved in Caesar’s lifetime
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Tusculum portrait of Caesar


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This statue of Germanicus
(Germanicus Julius Caesar (15 BC – AD 19)
bears the hallmarks of Christian vandals,
including a cross carved on the forehead

Germanicus Julius Caesar (24 May 15 BC – 10 October AD 19), commonly known as Germanicus,

(a different Julius Caesar but similar damage to nose)
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