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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Clyde Winters: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Quetzalcoatl: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] Quetzalcoatl, consider this 1) nobody is reading this thread 2) you will never convince Clyde of anything Just write an article called "Debunking Van Sertima and Clyde Winters on the Olmecs and other matters" and move on then stop wasting energy on this and move on, it's looking pathetic, the repetition on this year after year going nowhere [/qb][/QUOTE]Done Van Sertima: https://www.academia.edu/199927/Robbing_Native_American_Cultures_Van_Sertimas_Afrocentricity_and_the_Olmecs The problem with Winters is finding a journal to publish in-- I don't do the kind of unreviewed journals Winters does. Van Sertima had achieved some influence in schools and thus serious journals considered it worthwhile to publish an article critiquing his work. I would have trouble convincing peer reviewed journals that Clyde's work is worth some of their limited space. [/qb][/QUOTE]This is just a cop out.Online Journals have unlimited space because they are published on-line. My on-line articles were peer reviewed and you know it. You are upset because I can write and publish research articles for linguistic and scientific journals. You are a good writer of narrative style descriptive anthropological articles and books, but you are not a scientific research writer. You just have to follow the methodology for research articles required by the journal, to get your paper published. Your problem is that you don't know how to write scientific and linguistics research papers. If you had scientific evidence to support your propositions you could get your article published.In addition to not knowing how to write research articles, You just don't want to pay $2-3000 to have your paper published in the "Open Access" journals, e.g., PLoS, you support. We have been debating these issues since 1996. During this period I have published and written three books on the ancient Olmecs and a major article. I have confirmed the research of Leo Wiener, on the Mande influence on the Mayan Calendar, Olmec writing and the reality that the Mayan language have many Mande loanwords. [IMG]http://olmec98.net/olanguage1.jpg[/IMG] . [IMG]http://olmec98.net/olanguage2.jpg[/IMG] I have also published books supporting my research: [IMG]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-lO-FagJARFI/UWxfsvJxouI/AAAAAAAAAiw/n7A4_r7QaP4/s320/atlantis.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4AxOaoy_2Uw/UWLULJ2nqfI/AAAAAAAAAho/MFz-1DvVl8c/s320/Africa2.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://olmec98.net/olmec_45.png[/IMG] After our on-line debates in 1996, I starting making presentations at Conferences. I made many presentations on the Olmecs at Anthrpological Conferences in which members of the Academe attended. I made these presentations because back in the 1990's, you, laymen and other detractors attacked my work and acussed me of not presenting my work before the academic community. I have made presentation at international and national anthropological meetings, before my "peers" including AAA. For example Linda Schele attended my 1997 Olmec presentation. [IMG]http://olmec98.net/aaa991.GIF[/IMG] [IMG]http://olmec98.net/aaa992.GIF[/IMG] Friday, April 16th ... in Highland Chiapas. 9:30. Clyde Winters (Loyola U - Chicago) Olmec Symbolism in the Mayan Writing. 9:50. Nestor Quiroa (U Illinois ... [URL=http://www.aaanet.org/csas/mtg99/program/pfri.html]www.aaanet.org/csas/mtg99/program/pfri.html[/URL] - 47k - Cached - Similar pages Saturday, April 17th ... 11:15. Samuel Cooper (Bar Ilan U) The Classification of Biblical Sacrifice. 11:35. Clyde Winters (Loyola U - Chicago) Harappan Origins of Yogi. 11:55. ... [URL=http://www.aaanet.org/csas/mtg99/program/psat.html]www.aaanet.org/csas/mtg99/program/psat.html[/URL] - 50k - Cached - Similar pages preliminary program csas98 ... Mexican Villages. 4:10 Clyde A. Winters (Uthman dan Fodio I) Jaguar Kings: Olmec Royalty and Religious Leaders in the First Person. 4:30 ... [URL=http://www.aaanet.org/csas/mtg98/Prelimp5.htm]www.aaanet.org/csas/mtg98/Prelimp5.htm[/URL] - 39k - Cached - Similar pages Thursday April, 3 - Early Afternoon ... Russia [1413]. 2:30 pm - Clyde A. Winters (Uthman dan Fodio Institute) - The Decipherment of Olmec Writing [1414]. 2:50 pm - James ... [URL=http://www.aaanet.org/csas/mtg97/final.htm]www.aaanet.org/csas/mtg97/final.htm[/URL] - 36k - Cached - Similar pages You can see my 1997 Lecture on the Decipherment of the Olmec script, Linda Schele attended on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6TuODS64AY&feature=em-upload_owner At that time I believe you were still teaching. I met many members of the establishment at these Conferences and I presented papers on panels along with other experts. You have not published anything in response to my presentations at Conferences, articles and books.You confront my research at ES, in the hope that you can use the bandwagon effect (hate of the word :Afrocentrism) to garner support, but you fail because whereas you have no support for your propositions I bring forth evidence destroying all your false claims. You have not published anything because you are a fool, but you are not foolish. Once you publish such an article I get the opportunity to respond and I will continue to show how you don't know what you're talking about. In a research journal I will show your peers what a liar you are. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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