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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Akachi: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Clyde Winters: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Akachi: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by KING: [qb] People THINK What do Native Americans Called African AMericans look like??? What do Native Americans called Afro Brazilians look like??? What do Native Americans called Haitians look like??? All three Groups look African. They don't look Asian Black, They look African Black. Clyde is right and yall keep trying to claim the mongoloids as the only Native Americans, when African americans are Black Native Americans. Stop trying to win debates, and actually LISTEN to each other.. Good Job Clyde [/qb][/QUOTE]You are right. I am thinking the DNA of these folks would be the same if what you are saying is true. "Pure" indigenous Native Americans will have the same DNA as Africans in America. But they don't. Your argument is based purely on conjecture not hard facts. Curly hair is not unique to Africa. Millions of black folks in the Pacific have curly hair and are not Africans. And these same people are right next to other populations of black folks in the Pacific with straight hair. Both are equally native, indigenous and aboriginal. Hair is subject to random mutation and genetic drift as much as any other trait of the human body. [/qb][/QUOTE]Why Ignore that those Pacific Islanders are all variations of Africoid people who simply migrated and settled in those parts of the World thousands of years ago? Those melaninated [URL=https://youtu.be/MT3WdW79qvA?t=358]Africoid[/URL] Southern-Southeast Asians and Pacific Islanders actually say that they migrated [URL=https://youtu.be/MT3WdW79qvA?t=765]from Africa[/URL]. The fact that not only are those Asians phenotypically identical to Africans, but they also carry African blood types as indicated by the spread of maria - maria resistance (sickle cell, G6PD etc). This can only be passed down from common ancestry not "adaption". The map below CLEARLY shows that this phenomena is an African one by the distribution. First the distribution of the U.S. matches the distribution of the black population concentrated in the [URL=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d0/New_2000_black_percent.gif]low land south[/URL]. The situation in Europe is also telling because it is in the areas where we know was very recently (500 years ago) [URL=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_svnsF5OLbI]dominated[/URL] by African Muslims (Moors). [IMG]http://www.nature.com/scitable/content/20449/10.1038_nrmicro795-f1a_full.gif[/IMG] Once again we see Africoid haplotypes for sickle cell distributed from Africa all the way into southeast Asia. [IMG]http://oi59.tinypic.com/5lqtdi.jpg[/IMG] This fact should lay to rest any attempts to say that we are not closely related to the melaninated peoples of Asia. They literally share our unique blood line. [/qb][/QUOTE]Akachi you are right Oceanic and Africans share a common bloodline. Today people have stopped calling the Oceanic people Negroes. But up until the 1990's the generic term Negro was used for Blacks worldwide. For the past 200 years it was used to identify Blacks in Africa and Asia. This was confirmed by crianiometric meseaurement and blood grouping. I shouldn't have to tell you this, but crianiometrics can distinguish Negroes from Mongoloid or Caucasian populations. [IMG]http://olmec98.net/mela1.jpg[/IMG] DNA is showing the same correspondence. [IMG]http://i49.tinypic.com/xn4vip.jpg[/IMG] [b] Tonga step pyramid [/b] First, the Fijians claim they came from Africa. We know a megalithic culture expanded from Africa into the Indian/Pacific Ocean areas after 2000 BC. [IMG]http://i48.tinypic.com/w059ol.jpg[/IMG] [b] Pyramid of Mauritius [/b] Secondly, African place names are found in the Pacific and correspondences between lexical items. [list] [*]Common Terms: English Manding Melanesian Polynesian arrow bye,bya fana,pane fana,pana Father baba babi papa Man tye ta taga-ta head ku tequ-qa tuku-noa pot daga taga taga vase bara pora,bora bora-bora fish yege ige, ika ika ox, cattle konga,gunga kede kuda [/list] The ancient Austronesians cultivated rice, millet, yams and sugarcane. (Bellwood 1990, p.92) It would appear that the Polynesians learned agriculture from the Manding as illustrated below: [list] [*]Polynesian English Manding *talun fallow, land daa *tanem to plant, sow daa *suluq torch, jet of flame suu *kuDen cooking pot,bowl ku [/list] This evidence provides linguistic and anthropological support for the Fiji tradition. It is wrong that you guys deny a people history just because your European masters to do not present evidence in support of a native tradition. If you keep waiting for Europeans to verify our history you will have a long wait. Recently Williams John Page (1988) discussed the Lakato Hypothesis. The Lakato Hypothesis stated simply implies that the Melanesian people of Fiji were carried to the Pacific Islands by Indonesian maritime merchants after they had colonized parts of East and central Africa. In these Indonesian centers, Page (1988) believes that the Africans "gravitated into the Indonesian inspired trade". Page (1988) wrote that :[CODE]"It is further suggested that the Lakato colonies in Africa were the principal contributors to the earliest settlements of Malagasy and responsible for the traces of Indonesian influence in Africa which have endured into modern times, as identified by previous investigators".[/CODE]To support this hypothesis Page (1988) presents place names that are made up of African ethnic names (AEN) as roots for Fijian placenames. These toponyms include a multitude of hills, streams and villages composed of a simple AEN root plus a Fijian placenames e.g.,koro, wai-ni-, vatu and na-. Page (1988, p.34) found 270 AEN's forming part of Fijian place names (FPN). The interesting fact about the AEN and FPN cognates is that they are found in West Africa and not East Africa. (Page 1988, p.47) This fact negates Page's (1988) hypothesis because there are no rivers in Africa that link East Africa and West Africa. This suggest that Africans who later settled West Africa must have been in the Pacific long before the Austronesians arrived on Madagascar. This view is supported by the fact that the classical mongoloid people did not arrive in the Pacific area until after 500 B.C. Page (1988,p.66) believes that the AEN-FPN cognates are the result of the establishment of Indonesian colonies first along the Zambia river and from there into Central and Western Africa between the fourth and eleventh centuries A.D. During this period Bantu speakers are believed to have been incorporated into the Indonesian Lakota culture and between the eleventh to sixteenth A.D. settled in Melanesia by Lakota fleets. (Page 1988, p.66) Although Page's (1988,p.67) theory is interesting the fact that the AENs that are FPN's are prefixed to a multitude of hills, streams and villages" indicate that these place names are very old because the names for hills and streams are rarely changed. Page (1988, p.67) noted four common prefixes used in the FPN's: Koro 'village,hill', wai-ni- 'water of'; vatu- 'stone'; and na- 'the'. These terms are closely related to Manding terms as illustrated below: [CODE]FPN English Manding koro hill kuru koro village so-koro wai-ni water of ba-ni 'course of water' vatu stone bete na the ni[/CODE]As illustrated above the AENs and Manding terms are analogous for 'hill', 'the' and 'of'. It would appear that the FPN /w/ corresponds to Manding /b/. Due to the thousands of miles separating the Manding and AENs, this cognate can be explained as loan words. Given the full agreement of these terms suggest a genetic relationship between AENs and Manding and descent from Paleo-African. In addition to AENs serving as FPNs we find many toponyms in Oceania that corresponds to West African place names. Below we see 36 place names from Oceania and WestAfrica that share full correspondence. Manding ,Polynesian and Melanesian share many terms for kinship, dwellings, topographical features, dwellings and utensils. [list] [*]WEST AFRICA OCEANIA Alamand Alamanda Alika Alika Alika Arika Babonga Babonga Bagola Bagola Batori Batori Bakaka Bakaka Bambula Bambula Buduri Buduri Burbura Burbura Gambia Gambia Kalobi Kalobi Kalonda Kalonda Kalonga Kalonga Kamalo Kamalo Kambia Kambia Kamori Kamori Kantara Kantara Karako Karako Kayata Kayata Kukula Kukula Magari Magari Magura Maguri Makara Makara Marosi Maros Oronga Oronga Palanka Palanka Parapara Parapara Sio Sio Sumbura Sumbura Tamana Tamana Taraba Taraba Taramal Taramal Teleki Teleki Totoki Totoki Varong Varong [/list] See full article: http://olmec98.net/pac1.htm In fact, they also share common placenames. Shared place names in Melanesia suggest that the Melanesians recently came to the Pacific from Africa, as claimed by the Fijians. [IMG]http://olmec98.net/mela2.jpg[/IMG] The Melanesians probably belonged to the Niger-Congo and Dravidian speaking communities that formerly lived in the Sahara-Sahel region until 5-6kya. The Melanesians formerly lived in Africa and/or South China/Southeast Asia before they sailed to the Pacific Islans, probably as part of the Lapita migrations. In figure 3 we see cognate Mande and Melanesian terms for vase, pot, arrow, cattle/ox, and fish. They also shared agricultural terms as well [list] [*]Polynesian English Manding *talun fallow, land daa *tanem to plant daa *suluq torch, flame suu *kuDen cooking pot,bowl ku [/list] [IMG]http://olmec98.net/mela3.jpg[/IMG] As you can see the Melanesians and Africans are not only negroid they also share genes, placenames and culture terms. [/qb][/QUOTE]Thanks for the great information my man!!! [/QB][/QUOTE]
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