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[QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Mike111: Contrary to Albino depictions of Slavery, which are primarily concerned with beatings: the Slaves life was one of almost total and complete depravity. It is a wonder that any of them survived, much less, as long as they did - which wasn't very long at all. . Yet you think that their populations would have INCREASED????? Damn you're Stupid! [/QUOTE]No Mike it make you even more stupid because you have put up evidence below which supports a popualtion increase in slaves, dumbass. I actally read this stuff and am not distrated by diversionary remarks thrown in like "is it any wonder that" or "how could it be" People trying ti implant doubt to slip in their own agendas are not going to work Above Mike says"[b] Contrary to [/b]Albino depictions of Slavery, which are primarily concerned with beatings: the Slaves life was one of almost total and complete depravity. It is a wonder that any of them survived, much less, as long as they did - which wasn't very long at all." ^^ Does the statement make any sense? So beatings are not part of a life of total and complete depravity? They are "contrary to" it ? So white people are trying to cover up a life of total and complete depravity by showing beatings instead? This makes no sense. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Mike111: Yet you think that their populations would have INCREASED????? [/QUOTE]If you look at the life of slaves in America there were beatings and depravity and a high birth rate. Mike wants to cover up that high birth rate to sweep Africans under the rug so he can give you a feel good story about how black people were realy European nobles. And who wants to hear horror stories all day long about being a slave? Can't we just pretend we we European nobles? Yes you can but don't be so dumb as to produce the data below which supprts a high birth rate despite a mortality rate that is relativley high yet not enough to offset the birth rate. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Mike111: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF CHILDREN BORN TO A SLAVE WOMAN WAS 9.2 - TWICE AS MANY AS IN THE WEST INDIES http://www.gilderlehrman.org/history-by-era/slavery-and-anti-slavery/resources/facts-about-slave-trade-and-slavery [/qb][/QUOTE]. Quote: Robert William Fogel - Without Consent or Contract: The Rise and Fall of American Slavery, calculates that the birthrate for Slave women was 6.2 children per lifetime (this is live births, exclusive of the many unsuccessful pregnancies). . [IMG]http://www.realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/Crests/Birth_rate_1.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://realhistoryww.com./world_history/ancient/Misc/Crests/Black_americans/page_1.jpg[/IMG] [/QUOTE]Now let's look at more of the same book Mike is quoting from [URL=http://www.ephotobay.com/share/slave-birth-rates-in-the-united-states-steven-mi.html] [IMG]http://www.ephotobay.com/image/slave-birth-rates-in-the-united-states-steven-mi.jpg[/IMG][/URL] ^ quote [b]WHILE THE DEATH RATE OF US SLAVES WAS AS HIGH AS THAT IN JAMAICA THE BIRTH RATE WAS 80 PERCENT HIGHER[/b] and the death rate which ran up to 5% a year does not offset that huge difference much So despite poor conditions, infant moirtality, still borns, African slaves in the U.S. had a dramatic increase in births. Now let's go back to Mike's delusions for a moment "we can't be Africans, no way we were European nobles" " the African slaves couldn't have had a population increase look at the scars on this guy's back" -O.K. so we must have come from blacks who lived under better conditions than slaves. They treated the black European nobles better but had just tricked them into thinking they were Africans How much further must we go into this child like fantatsy world of denial? There was a time when militant black folk spoke of the trauma of the slave legacy as a rallying cry for social justice. Now anaonymous internet pseudo miltants and delusional MST adhearants pretend it was greatly exaggerated And this should be in sync with the white supremacist view that blacks greatly exaggerate slavery's impact and legacy So what if we don't want to harp on slavery all the time? Fine, don't get into that aspect of black history in America, focus on black invention and achievement and African invention and achievement You dont have to focus on slavery, just dont try to sweep it under the rug and make false attempts to minimize it Leave it alone if you dont want to deal with it [/QB][/QUOTE]
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