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[QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [QB] [QUOTE] The phylogeographic profile of R1*-M173 supports this ancient migration of Kushites from Africa to Eurasia as suggested by the Classical writers. This expansion of Kushites into Eurasia probably took place over 4 kya. --Clyde Winters The Kushite Spread of Haplogroup R1*-M173 from Africa to Eurasia [/QUOTE]Clyde Hassan 2008 reported that Sudanese Fulani carry R-M173 (x P25) at a 54% frequency You say an expansion of Kushites into Eurasia probably took place over 4 kya. But R-M173 is estimated to be 12,500–25,700 years old. Assuming that Sudanese Fulani are descendants of the Kushites are you saying that there was no R1a outside of Africa until around 4,000 years ago? That doesn't make sense In Europe, the highest frequencies are found in Central and Eastern Europe. Today it is found at its highest levels in Tajiks (64%), Kyrgyz (63%), Poland and Hungary (56%–60%), Ukraine (44-54%) High haplotype diversity was detected in Poland Among the caste groups of India high percentages of this haplogroup are found in West Bengal Brahmins(72%) to the east, Konkanastha Brahmins(48%) to the west, Khatris(67%) in north and Iyenger(31%) Brahmins of south. It has also been found in several South Indian Dravidian-speaking Adivasis including the Chenchu(26%), the Valmikis of Andhra Pradesh and the Kallar of Tamil Nadu [b]Absolute dating methods suggest that this marker is 10–15,000 years old, and the microsatellite diversity is greatest in southern Asia. The modern population of South Asia has the highest level of diversity of the gene making it the likeliest location of its origin [/b] My guess is that the Indians carried this Haplogroup to both Europe and Africa The ancestor of this Haplogroup is R* found in 24 kya Siberia remains R-M173 is at minimum over 12,500 years old. It has a wide range in Eurasia so it could not have first arrived a mere 4000 or so years ago [/QB][/QUOTE]
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