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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Quetzalcoatl: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Clyde Winters: [qb] [LOL. Montellano the Kivisild articles makes your whole paper invalid and your arguments prima facie evidence of your lack of knowledge about Indian genetics. In the 1999 article, Kivisild admits that Dravidians carry M1, which is an African haplogroup. This article is just as relevant today as it was in 1999. People carry a particular gene do not just disappear.[/qb][/QUOTE]. The 1999 paper is invalid. The people did not disappear, however the [b]name[/b] of their haplotype changed (by the committee in charge of nomenclature) to M3. [QUOTE][qb]The Eastern African hg M1, HVS-I signature motif is 16,129, 16,189, 16,223, 16,249, and 16,311. In the Kivisild et al figure below we see the same motif. The mutations are shown less 16,000.[/qb][/QUOTE]If anyone wants to check- look up SNPs 129, 189,223, 249 and 311 in http://www.phylotree.org/Y/tree/index.htm and see that the name is M3 not M1 [QUOTE][qb]In Table 4, Kivisild et al, 1999, we see the frequency of M1 in India.There are 217 million Dravidian speakers in India, if we compare the frequency of M1 carriers to the Dravidian speaking community around 32 million people carry M1. [QB][/ The frequency of 15% of the Dravidians carrying M1 shows the presence of M1 in India. As a result, your arguments are false and invalid. [/qb][/QUOTE]NO, 23 million people in India carry M3. Get over it!! [/QB][/QUOTE]
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