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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Troll Patrol # Ish Gebor: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Quetzalcoatl: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Troll Patrol # Ish Gebor: [qb] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3322232/bin/gr1.jpg http://www.ianlogan.co.uk/lists/kivisild4.htm [URL=http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=008545] Specificity Origin Lineage(Genesis)[/URL] [/qb][/QUOTE]I'm puzzled. Why do we have a phylogeny of mtDNA when we are discussing the Y-chromosome? [/qb][/QUOTE]Are we? :( If so, then there has been major confusion from the start. I however, tapped in somewhere in the middle of the conversation, where mtDNA Hg M was mentioned. [URL=http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=010625;p=3#000105]M = M1 # T489C, C10400T, T14783C, G15043A[/URL] But yeah, earlier on the conversation was on male ancestry. [QUOTE] [b]The Y chromosome Alu polymorphism (YAP, also called M1) defines the deep-rooted haplogroup D/E of the global Y-chromosome phylogeny [1].[/b] This D/E haplogroup is further branched into three sub-haplogroups DE*, D and E (Figure 1). The distribution of the D/E haplogroup is highly regional, and the three subgroups are geographically restricted to certain areas, therefore informative in tracing human prehistory (Table [b]1). The sub-haplogroup DE*, presumably the most ancient lineage of the D/E haplogroup was only found in Africans from Nigeria [2], supporting the "Out of Africa" hypothesis about modern human origin.[/b] The sub-haplogroup E (E-M40), defined by M40/SRY4064 and M96, was also suggested originated in Africa [3-6], and later dispersed to Middle East and Europe about 20,000 years ago [3,4]. Interestingly, the sub-haplogroup D defined by M174 (D-M174) is East Asian specific with abundant appearance in Tibetan and Japanese (30–40%), but rare in most of other East Asian populations and populations from regions bordering East Asia (Central Asia, North Asia and Middle East) (usually less than 5%) [5-7]. Under D-M174, Japanese belongs to a separate sub-lineage defined by several mutations (e.g. M55, M57 and M64 etc.), which is different from those in Tibetans implicating relatively deep divergence between them [1]. The fragmented distribution of D-M174 in East Asia seems not consistent with the pattern of other East Asian specific lineages, i.e. O3-M122, O1-M119 and O2-M95 under haplogroup O [8,9].[/QUOTE]--Hong Shi et al. 2008: http://www.biomedcentral.com/1741-7007/6/45 [/QB][/QUOTE]
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