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[QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Clyde Winters: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Njii: The 3 streams of thought within the Black Genetics paradigm » Post (3) [b]Archeogenticists[/b] These are scholars that combine archeology and linguistics in genetics from an African centered prospective and seek to understand genetic data from the perspective of the original African blueprint of humanity. [/qb][/QUOTE]First of all spell the word correctly: Archaeogenetics, "a" before "e" Archaeogenetics, a term coined by British archaeologist and paleolinguist Colin Renfrew, is not research practiced by scholars it is practiced by scientists in laboratories using scientific equipment. Archaeogentics is a term is not specific to "Black genetics" or an "African centered perspective" The term was invented by a white man and is most frequently used in referring to the Max Planck institute in Germany who has a department called the Department of Archaeogentics although is of course not specific to it. Look at the term "genetics" and the term "archaeology" Both are science. Neither are supposed to be biased toward Eurocentric or Afrocentric. Therefore a Eurocentric or an Afrocentric can use archaeogenetics in their arguments as a tool but archaeology and genetics or combining the two as " archaeogenetics" [QUOTE]Originally posted by Njii: Most geneticists use the greater diversity paradigm to establish the origin of modern haplogroups and genetic markers. The greatest diversity of R is found in Central Africa. According to this particular line of reasoning R originated in Africa and not Eurasia. [/QUOTE]Clyde Winters is not a geneticist and has no training in biology. There is no professional geneticist or archaeogenticist that says Haplogroup R has greater diversity in Central Africa or any part of Africa. As regards to Haplogroup R, it has LESS diversity in Central Africa than in Western Asia and anatolia. Try to find one single peer reviewed non-Clyde Winters scientific article that says R has it's greatest diversity anywhere in Africa to substantiate your claim. Your statement is false To Clyde and others: please don't try to save him. He made the claim so he should be the one responsible for backing it with references. Let's give him a couple of days to come up with something If not, I'm putting another scratch on my belt. ______________________________________ [/qb][/QUOTE]You don't have to be a genericist to write and publish genetics articles. Iosif Lazaridis is a Computer Scientist--not a geneticist, and he has authored several articles you guys have accepted as genetics research on this forum: http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=009467;p=9 . [/QB][/QUOTE]It's not just losif Lazaridis it's a research team that includes trained geneticists and who do the primary analysis The genetic structure of the world's first farmers Iosif Lazaridis, Dani Nadel, Gary Rollefson, Deborah C. Merrett, Nadin Rohland, Swapan Mallick, Daniel Fernandes, Mario Novak, Beatriz Gamarra, Kendra Sirak, Sarah Connell, Kristin Stewardson, Eadaoin Harney, Qiaomei Fu, Gloria Gonzalez-Fortes, Songül Alpaslan Roodenberg, Gyorgy Lengyel, Fanny Bocquentin, Boris Gasparian, Janet M. Monge, Michael Gregg, Vered Eshed, Ahuva-Sivan Mizrahi, Christopher Meiklejohn, Fokke Gerritsen, Luminita Bejenaru, Matthias Blueher, Archie Campbell, Gianpero Cavalleri, David Comas, Philippe Froguel, Edmund Gilbert, Shona M. Kerr, Peter Kovacs, Johannes Krause, Darren McGettigan, Michael Merrigan, D. Andrew Merriwether, Seamus O'Reilly, Martin B. Richards, Ornella Semino, Michel Shamoon-Pour, Gheorghe Stefanescu, Michael Stumvoll, Anke Tonjes, Antonio Torroni, James F. Wilson, Loic Yengo, Nelli A. Hovhannisyan, Nick Patterson, Ron Pinhasi, David Reich doi: http://dx.doi.org/10.1101/059311 [/QB][/QUOTE]
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