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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Clyde Winters: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Clyde Winters: 100% of Black people in the United States are the result of Black European+Black African+Black Native American= Afro-American. [/QUOTE]You might want all Blacks in America to mix of indigenous "black Europeans" , Africans and Native Americans but that is wishful thinking. Most Africans brought to America did not mix with Native Americans. There is no record of indigenous Black Europeans coming to America. There may have been some blacks who were Africans living in Europe for serval hundred years and before the trans Atlantic slave trade who may have wound up in America but they were not indigenous Europeans. Furthermore even what you were saying was the case the average black person would be about 70% African, 25% white European and anything else 5%. So even in your statement you have no average percentages. A person could be Irish and Japanese. They might be half and half or they might be 95% Irish, 5% Japanese or 95% Japanese 5% Irish. Some white Americans have similarly small percentages of Native American ancestry also. Some Native Americans have been in America for at least 12,000 years, others perhaps much longer and before that probably in some other place out of Africa. In that long period of time, even several thousands years in a new environment their DNA would change and it has. So you are not going to find West African haplogroups in high frequencies in Native Americas. However you will find them in high frequencies in black Americans. The average black American is 70% or more African but some people are in denial we are primarily recent Africans. That is because people are ashamed to be African [/qb][/QUOTE]The only Native Americans whoes ancestry goes back 12ky would be Black Native Americans. Mongoloid Native Americans have only been in the Americas 6000 years. This is because the Paleoamericans were Blacks or Africans. In very ancient times the American continent was inhabited by Asian and African blacks. The oldest skeletal remains found in the Americas are of blacks. Marquez observed that "it is [good] to report that long ago the youthful America was also a Negro continent." Dr. Dixon (1923) noted that Austroloid and later negritos or the Anu people crossed the Bering Strait to reach the New World. These people were Blacks as illustrated by the reconstructed image of the first Europeans. . [IMG]http://politicalblindspot.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/euro.jpg[/IMG] . And Lanning noted that "there was a possible movement of negritos from Ecuador into the Piura Valley, north of Chicama and Viru" in early times. This would explain the Incan nobles discussed by Mike. [IMG]http://realhistoryww.com./world_history/ancient/Images_Olmec/Inca_kings_2_text.jpg[/IMG] Controversy surrounds the origin of the Paleoamericans. Hrdlička advanced the idea that the Paleoamericans were homogenous, a people that originated in East Asia or Melanesia . Other researchers were not so sure. In the 1960’s there was a return to the study of craniometrics quantitative analysis and multivariate methods to determine the Native American population . This research indicated that the ancient Americans represent two populations, Paleoamericans were phenotypically African, Australian or Melanesian and a mongoloid population that appears to have arrived in the Americas after 6000 BC. Although we are sure of the ethnic identity of the Paleoamericans we do not know from which continent the Paleoamericans came from. [IMG]https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Clyde_Winters/publication/283088842/figure/fig2/AS:287729633640449@1445611498230/Figure-2-Ancient-Native-Americans-and-the-first-European-in-the-Center.png[/IMG] Scientist have already made it clear the first Brazilians were Africans--Black People. Evidence that fire existed in Brazil 65kya is an indication that man was at the site 65,000 years ago, since researchers found charcoal, which is the result of fire making. The New York Times, reported that humans were in Brazil 100,000 years ago . Dr.Nieda Guidon supports her dating of human population in Brazil 100,000 years ago to ancient fire and tool making. Look at the New York Times video: Human’s First Appearance in the Americas @: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/28/world/americas/discoveries-challenge-beliefs-on-humans-arrival-in-the-americas.html?hp&_r=4 If you view the video you will see that human occupation of Brazil 100,000 years ago is supported by man made fire, charcoal, and tools. Dr. Guidon who conducted excavation at the site notes at 2:09 the site is 100,000 years old. At 3:17 in the video scientists proved that the tools are the result of human craftsmanship . You can reject this evidence but it proves that Blacks were here before the mongoloids. Stop trying to steal the history of the Black Native Americans. In the 1970’s in Brazil an interesting skull of a girl was found. This skull was reconstructed and dated back to 12,000 BP (Neves and Pucciarelli, 1991; Neves, Powell and Ozolins, 1999c, 1999d). Dr. Walter Neves professor of biological anthropology at the University of Sao Paolo, after reconstructing the “Luzia” skull found that this personage was either an African or Pacific island type Black (Neves , Powell and Ozolins, 1999c ) . Scientists have used the skulls of these skeletons to reconstruct the face of the Paleoamericans. [b]The skulls of these Paleoamericans are of Black Native American females. The scientists gave them names Penon woman, Luzia and Naia.[/b] . [IMG]http://www.ancient-origins.net/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/PaleoAmericans.jpg?itok=jI1F3VdC[/IMG] . The Paleoamericans are ethnically different from contemporary Native Americans.All of the Paleoamericans have been classified as part of the Black Variety. This includes Naia, Penon Woman of Mexico and Luzia of Brazil. [b]The craniometric mesasurements of the Paleoamerican skeletons fall within the Black Variety of homo sapien sapiens: African, Australian and the Melanesian phenotypic range (Neves, Powell and Ozolins,1998, 1999a,1999b; Powell,2005). The craniometric measurements of the PaleoIndians match the multivariate standard deviations of these three populations.[/b] The determination of the Paleoamericans as members of the Black Variety is not a new phenomena. Howells ( 1973,1989,1995) using multivariate analyses, determined that the Easter Island population was characterized as Australo-Melanesian, while other skeletons from South America were found to be related to Africans and Australians ( Coon, 1962; Dixon, 2001; Howell, 1989, 1995; Lahr, 1996). The African-Australo-Melanesian morphology was widespread in North and South America. For example skeletal remains belonging to the Black Variety have been found in Brazil (Neves, Powell, Prous and Ozolins,1998; Neves, Powell, Ozolins, 1998), Columbian Highlands (Neves, Pacciarelli, Munford, 1995; Powell, 2005 ), Mexico ( Gonza’lez-Jose, 2012), Florida ( Howells,1995), and Southern Patazonia ( Neves, Powell and Ozolins,1999a,1999b). The facial reconstruction of the Paleoamericans were startling ( Neto and Santo,2010). The bioanthropologist Walter Neves’s reconstruction evidenced Negroid features for the Paleoamerican we call Luzia. Negroid features common to the Black Variety that were different from the indigenous mongoloid features of contemporary Americans ( Neto and Santo, 2010). What made this finding startling was that Neves using the mahalanobis distance and principal component analysis, found that 75 other skulls from Lagos Santa, were also phenotypically African or Australian ( Neves, Gonza’lez-Jose, Hubbe, Kipnis et al,2004). This has led researchers to highlight the fact that the PaleoIndian non-Mongoloid morphology was widespread across the Americas and that the population type is African-Australian (Munford et al, 1995; Neves et al, 2004; Neves and Hubbe, 2005). As a result, the cranial morphology of the ancient Americans indicates that two populations settled the Americas one African-Australian and the other mongoloid ( Neves and Hubbe,2005; Powell, 2005). [b]There is no single phenotypical negro that can be classified as Sub-Saharan African, so we have to apply the term Black Variety to the African-Australian-Polynesian populations.[/b] Several types of blacks entered the Americas including the Anu or negrito type and the Proto-Saharan variety of blacks. Up until recently it was believed that the first humans crossed the Bering Strait 12,000 B.P., to enter the North American continent.(Begley 1991, p.15) This view was never accepted by physical anthropologists who have found skeletal remains far older than 12,000 B.P. . [IMG]http://www.ancient-origins.net/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/PaleoAmericans.jpg?itok=jI1F3VdC[/IMG] . Today archaeologists have found sites from Canada to Chile that range between 20,000 and 40,000 years old. There are numerous sites in North and South America which are over 35,000 years old. These sites are the Old Crow Basin (c.38,000 B.C.) in Canada; Orogrande Cave (c.36,000 B.C.) in the United States; and Pedra Furada (c.45,000 B.C.) Given the fact that the earliest dates for habitation of the American continent occur below Canada in South America is highly suggestive of the fact that the earliest settlers on the American continents came from Africa before the Ice melted at the Bering Strait and moved northward as the ice melted. The appearance of pebble tools at Monte verde in Chile (c.32,000 B.P), and rock paintings at Pedra Furada in Brazil (c.22,000 B.P.) and mastodont hunting in Venezuela and Colombia (c.13,000 B.P.), have led some researchers to believe that the Americas was first settled from South America. C. Vance Haynes noted that: "If people have been in South America for over 30,000 years, or even 20,000 years, why are there so few sites?....One possible answer is that they were so few in number; another is that South America was somehow initially populated from directions other than north until Clovis appeared". P.S. Martin and R. G. Klein after discussing the evidence of mastodont hunting in Venezuela 13,000 years ago observed that : "The thought that the fossil record of South America is much richer in evidence of early archaeological associations than many believed is indeed provocative.... Have the earliest hunters been overlooked in North America? Or did the hunters somehow reach South America first"? [b] The early presence of ice-age sites in South America suggest that these people came from Africa. [/b] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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