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[QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Clyde Winters: . I have already discussed the fact that the D haplogroup is nothing more than haplogroup M1.[/QUOTE]You discussed that but it is false. Most Africans Americans are not M1 carriers. Haplogroup M has it's highest diversity and frequency outside of Africa. If you look at haplogroup D it does not follow M1. It follows ALL the other M haplogroups that evolved outside of Africa. Below is the phylogeny, M1 is at the beginning D is at the very end of all the transitions that occurred in Asia, in India and elsewhere M M1 M1a M1a1 M1a1a M1a1b M1a1b1 M1a1c M1a1d M1a1e M1a1f M1a2 M1a2a M1a2b M1a3 M1a3a M1a3b M1a4 M1a5 M1b M1b1 M1b1a M1b2 M1b2a M2 M2a M2a1 M2a2 M2a3 M2b M2b1 M2b2 M3 M3a M4"45 M4 M4a M4b M4b1 M18'38 M18 M38 M30 M30a M30b M30c M30c1 M30c1a M30c1a1 M30d M37 M37a M43 M45 M5 M5a M5a1 M5a1a M5a1b M5a2 M5a2a M6 M7 M7a M7a1 M7a1a M7a1a1 M7a1a1a M7a1a2 M7a1a3 M7a1a4 M7a1a4a M7a1a5 M7a1a6 M7a1a7 M7a1b M7a2 M7a2a M7a2b M7b'c'd'e M7b'd M7b M7b1'2 M7b1 M7b2 M7b2a M7b2b M7b2c M7b3 M7b3a M7d M7c'e M7c M7c1 M7c1a M7c1b M7c1b1 M7c2 M7c2a M7c3 M7c3a M7c3b M7c3c M7e M8 M8a M8a1 M8a2 M8a2a M8a2b CZ C Z M9 M9a'b'c'd M9a'c'd M9a'd M9a M9a1 M9a2 M9a3 M9d M9c M9b E M10'42 M10 M10a M10a1 M10a2 M42 M42a M11 M11a M11b M12'G M12 M12a G M13 M13a M13a1 M14 M15 M21 M21a'b M21a M21b M21c'd M21c M21d M22 M23 M25 M27 M27a M27b M27c M28 M28a M28b M29'Q M29 M29a M29b Q M31'32 M31 M31a M31a1 M31a1a M31a1b M31a2 M31a2a M31b M31c M32 M32a M33 M33a M33b M33c M34 M34a M35 M35a M35b M36 M36a M39 M39a M40 M40a M41 M44'52 M44 M52 M46 M47'50 M47 M50 M48 M49 M51 D ^^^ here D at the end. It's immediate ancestor is M51, it's from East India, The newly discovered M52 is also form East India while M53 is if rom West India. Haplogroup M49 - found among ancient specimens in the Euphrates valley. Haplogroup D is clearly an Asian haplogroup and is 40,000 - 60,000 year old and has been out of Africa longer than that having followed Asian clades of M. So even a horn African who might have significant frequencies of M1 is not a haplogroup D carrier, much less a West African of whom most African Americans are related. Europeans are more closely related to Africans than are the Asiatic Alaskans, East Asians including Han Chinese, Turkic Uyghurs and Paiute American Indians who have the high D frequencies like like the Anzick child and Naia. And behind that genealogically are all the South Asian clades of M, in India and so on Blacks in America are not that, not D carriers or the later Asian clades of M which have been out of Africa 60,000 years, 15-20,000 years longer out of Africa than the ancestors of modern white Europeans [/QB][/QUOTE]
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