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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Clyde Winters: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by jantavanta: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [qb] As usual Clyde comes up with a convoluted argument and says the oldest Chinese remains were "Negroid" but then turns around and says that the earliest Chinese dynasties were Africans.... Black people generally are the oldest populations in Asia, as evidenced by New Guinea and Australia, along with other aboriginal groups in South Asia. This "African" connection to black populations in Asia because of "features" is simply absurd. The genetic lineages of these people are Asian as one would expect of very ancient aboriginal populations. But of course that wont stop Clyde from trying to connect every black population in the world in history to Mande speaking Africans.... [/qb][/QUOTE]The entire Black populations of the Americas and Asia, are of African Origin. Clyde has done well by connecting every Black population in the world to Africans. His using the Mande, is the language he has access to. Others have used Igbo language in Nigeria. [/qb][/QUOTE]No they aren't. The DNA of the ancient aboriginal blacks in the Americas do not match any African population. The original populations of the Americas came from Asia and the initial groups were aboriginal black Asians from various parts of Asia and the Pacific. I don't know why folks keep insisting that somehow black skin outside of Africa indicates RECENT African ancestry. Skin color and features are tied to the environment and there are environments outside Africa that support populations with those features. Black folks in Asia are Asians. They are aboriginal, meaning been in place since the original OOA migrations 60,000 years ago. Australian Aborigines are not recent African migrants. Solomon Islanders are not recent African migrants. The Aboriginal Populations of Thailand, the Philippines and so forth are not recent African migrants..... That said, it doesn't mean there hasn't been African contact in these areas since OOA. It just means those contacts don't represent the basis of or reason for black skin in those areas. For example, Swahili trade with Asia. Bororo Indian Brazil: [IMG]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/83/Bororo001.jpg/751px-Bororo001.jpg[/IMG] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bororo Not Africans no matter how they look, their DNA is primarily Type O. [/qb][/QUOTE]You claim the Melanesians are not recent Africans. You say they came to the Pacific Islands 60,000 years ago. If they are not recent Africans explain why the Melanesians have the same names for culture items and place names. [IMG]http://olmec98.net/FPN4.png[/IMG] [IMG]http://olmec98.net/fpn5.png[/IMG] Shared place names in Melanesia suggest that the Melanesians recently came to the Pacific from Africa, as claimed by the Fijians. [IMG]http://olmec98.net/mela2.jpg[/IMG] The Melanesians probably belonged to the Niger-Congo and Dravidian speaking communities that formerly lived in the Sahara-Sahel region until 5-6kya. The Melanesians formerly lived in Africa and/or South China/Southeast Asia before they sailed to the Pacific Islans, probably as part of the Lapita migrations. In figure 3 we see cognate Mande and Melanesian terms for vase, pot, arrow, cattle/ox, and fish. They also shared agricultural terms as well [list] [*]Polynesian English Manding *talun fallow, land daa *tanem to plant daa *suluq torch, flame suu *kuDen cooking pot,bowl ku [/list] [IMG]http://olmec98.net/mela3.jpg[/IMG] As you can see the Melanesians and Africans are not only negroid they also share placenames and culture terms. No way they date back to 60,000 BC and have recent African place-names for their settlements. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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