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Could this be a rendition of Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by the questioner: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by the questioner: if he proves that Charles the V was indeed a black man(negro) than i will yield to it for it is not impossible that he could have been black(negro or moor) i just need hardcore proof that proves without a doubt that by black complexion they mean Negro [/QUOTE]You keep making the same mistake over and over again instead of asking Mike for old text that suggests Charles V was black you have attached the word "negro" and entangled the conversation in what black means. Fencer was actually the one who got into that but you started it. First things first, let us see any information Mike thinks that suggests or proves Charles V was black (has none, see his website) and then you can get into a discussion of what black means. Don't put the cart before the horse. You messed up the conversation now that I'm looking back on the conversatin and Mike and I followed you into the semantics But now it's time to get back on point and let Mike present his case that Charles V was black with text or paintings made when he was alive and in locations where he had been [/qb][/QUOTE]my mistake i assumed that Charles lenos duke of Richmond was Charles V i sped read Charles and assumed Charles the V i didn't think he was silly enough to put a whole different Charles to reference Charles the V first time shame on him second time shame on me [/QB][/QUOTE]
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