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Could this be a rendition of Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mansfield9: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] Your argument makes no sense. You say that picture of a swarthy Earl of Nottingham is a fantasy picture. Yet in a attempt to argue this you post a painting with many figures, many dark and many as light as or lighter than the Earl of Nottingham. So either both paintings are a fantasy or neither is.[/qb] [/QUOTE]I truly hope you are not a lawyer. To suggest that if one piece of evidence is fraudulent all evidence you can ever present is fraudulent is an exercise in cognitive dissonance. It is a truly weak argument, and one I've read in your posts before. I don't have to prove the authenticity of any artwork that is held in these European institutions. That is their job. Of course there is artwork that is real, but there is also a plethora of fake artwork, as the art forgery industry has always been a booming industry. People have careers were they actually DISCERN what is real vs what is fake. They can't just say, as authenticators, "either all art is fake, or none of it is". Lol. I showed you the Portuguese painting of the town center along with the literary excerpts to give you context that there were people in that region who were extremely black. Which I'm sure you saw judging from your response. Yet you tell me there were light people there too. What does that mean exactly? Did I ever say there were no light people? I'm simply giving you visual and literary context to the complexion of many Portuguese at the time. So you can understand, what I know you already do, that the descriptions of people as black complexioned, especially the Portuguese, means exactly that and no more. With regard to the evidence from the book of heraldry I see you did not respond to that. I've seen you suggest time and time again that these coat of arms never depict actual people. That is obviously false. I believe the excerpt I provided explains it simply in black and white. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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