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[QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by xyyman: There is no deny modern Europeans are depigmented Africans. That is undeniable. That is clear now. So the follow-up question is can humans morph that quickly? [/QUOTE] [QUOTE] Outside central Africa, haplogroup R-V88 was only observed in Afroasiatic-speaking populations from northern Africa, with frequencies ranging from 0.3% in Morocco, to 3.0% in Algeria, and to 11.5% in Egypt, where a particularly high frequency (26.9%) was observed among the Berbers from the Siwa Oasis. --2010 Jan 6. doi: 10.1038/ejhg.2009.231 [b]Human Y chromosome haplogroup R-V88: a paternal genetic record of early mid Holocene trans-Saharan connections and the spread of Chadic languages[/b] Fulvio Cruciani, [/QUOTE]I had posted a DNA chart for the Siwa but now remember that R-V88 had not been discovered in 2007, the time of the source data there. Later in 2010, Cruciani identified R-V88 as the R1b clade in Siwans So forget the Siwans for modern Europeans ancestors yes you can find the high H frequencies but their R is the African clade r-V88 not the European clade M269. And you can't even go to the high R-V88 frequencies in Cameroon and find corresponding mtDNA H, they are L carriers as per M269, it reaches over 80% in France, Basque Spain, Ireland and Wales (Wales 92%) Comparatively the highest frequencies in Africa of R-M269 are in Tunis 7.2% and Algiers 6.5% As per the H frequencies I posted earlier Tunisians are 10.6% H1 carriers. So, so far Tunisians are the best candidates for xyyman's theory that Africans are the immediate ancestors of modern Europeans, berbers in this case Now it's interesting historically because Tunisia is the very spot where during the 5th and 6th centuries (from 430 to 533 AD), the Germanic Vandals invaded and ruled over a kingdom in North Africa that included present-day Tripoli [/QB][/QUOTE]
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