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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Ish Gebor: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [qb] And even after the war there was open racism towards blacks in the Northern states all legalized under Jim Crow laws. Meaning there were openly racist mayors, councilmen, police commissioners, fire commissioners, governors, supreme court justices University Presidents and so forth.[/qb][/QUOTE]After seeing Rachel Maddow's summary "Racism Is 'A Persistent Infection' In White American Culture", I understand that these were KKK members or KKK affiliated individuals, but very powerful. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [qb] [QUOTE] “Blacks should be quarantined in isolated slums in order to reduce the incidence of civil disturbance, to prevent the spread of communicable disease into the nearby White neighborhoods, and to protect property values among the White majority” — J. Barry Mahool, 1910 Mayor of Baltimore, while explaining a municipal segregation law. [/QUOTE] https://stanfordreview.org/baltimores-legacy-of-racial-discrimination-b61a26128528 [/qb] [/QUOTE]It is certainly interesting to review this history. Their "racial segregation", Redlining was planned ahead years before the actual Act. [QUOTE][b]The Ugly, Fascinating History Of The Word 'Racism' The Oxford English Dictionary's first recorded utterance of the word racism was by a man named Richard Henry Pratt in 1902. Pratt was railing against the evils of racial segregation.[/b] Segregating any class or race of people apart from the rest of the people kills the progress of the segregated people or makes their growth very slow. Association of races and classes is necessary to destroy racism and classism.[/QUOTE] http://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2014/01/05/260006815/the-ugly-fascinating-history-of-the-word-racism [/qb][/QUOTE]To my mind this has nothing to do with the KKK, confederates vs the Union or anything else. It is basically the fundamental founding principle of the colonial slave industrial complex which is what started in 1492. Racism is a fundamental core feature of all European colonial societies created over the last 500 years. Therefore, to try and break it up into pieces and call it KKK here or Confederates there and Apartheid here vs Jim Crow there is missing the fundamental point. White supremacy is a core founding principle on which all these societies and cultures since 1492 were built. Having things broken up and taken out of context only makes it easier for white society [b]as a whole[/b] to duck responsibility for the whole system of white supremacy around the world. It is all one big mind game of trying to hide the obvious complicity across the board across all levels of white society in all areas geographically. Focusing on Confederate statues is just part of this mind game. As if other parts of the country were less racist when they werent. For example: almost every state in the country was founded on the principle of free land and resources for white people but segregation and limited rights or immigration for blacks. For example Oregon: [QUOTE] Waddles Coffee Shop in Portland, Oregon was a popular restaurant in the 1950s for both locals and travelers alike. The drive-in catered to America’s postwar obsession with car culture, allowing people to get coffee and a slice of pie without even leaving their vehicle. But if you happened to be black, the owners of Waddles implored you to keep on driving. The restaurant had a sign outside with a very clear message: “White Trade Only — Please.” It’s the kind of scene from the 1950s that’s so hard for many Americans to imagine happening outside of the Jim Crow South. How could a progressive, northern city like Portland have allowed a restaurant to exclude non-white patrons? This had to be an anomaly, right? In reality it was far too common in Oregon, a state that was explicitly founded as a kind of white utopia. America’s history of racial discrimination is most commonly taught as a southern issue. That’s certainly how I learned about it while going to Minnesota public schools in the 1980s and 90s. White people outside of the South seem to learn about the Civil War and civil rights movements from an incredibly safe (and often judgmental) distance. [/QUOTE] http://gizmodo.com/oregon-was-founded-as-a-racist-utopia-1539567040 But similar histories are found all over the country, not just the the South. So if you are going to tear down the "rebel flag" because it represents racism then you should also tear down the American flag because not only did it represent racism and injustice against blacks BEFORE the civil war, it also represented it [b]after[/b]. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Ish Gebor: [qb] [QUOTE] Nathan Bedford Forrest (1821-1877) was a Confederate general during the Civil War (1861-65). Despite having no formal military training, Forrest rose from the rank of private to lieutenant general, serving as a cavalry officer at numerous engagements including the Battles of Shiloh, Chickamauga, Brice’s Crossroads and Second Franklin. Known for his maxim “get there first with the most men,” Forrest was relentless in harassing Union forces during the Vicksburg Campaign in 1862 and 1863, and conducted successful raiding operations on federal supplies and communication lines throughout the war. In addition to his ingenious cavalry tactics, Forrest is also remembered for his controversial involvement in the Battle of Fort Pillow in April 1864, when his troops massacred black soldiers following a Union surrender. After the Civil War Forrest worked as a planter and railroad president, and served as the first grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan. He died in 1877 at the age of 56. [/QUOTE] http://www.history.com/topics/american-civil-war/nathan-bedford-forrest [/qb][/QUOTE]Ever heard of the Knights of The Golden Circle? [QUOTE] George W. L. Bickley, an Indiana-born doctor, editor, and "adventurer" who lived in Cincinnati, founded the association.[2] Records of the KGC convention held in 1860 state that the organization "originated at Lexington, Kentucky, on the fourth day of July 1854, by five gentlemen who came together on a call made by Gen. George Bickley".[3] He organized the first castle, or local branch, in Cincinnati in 1854. Hounded by creditors, he left Cincinnati in the late 1850s and traveled through the East and South, promoting an expedition to Mexico. The group's original goal was to provide a force to colonize the northern part of Mexico and the West Indies. This would extend pro-slavery interests.[/QUOTE] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_of_the_Golden_Circle Not to mention almost every white secret/nonsecret fraternal society in America has racist roots. This is why blacks couldn't join them originally. All of them are founded on the principle of the original European crusade that was initiated by Papal Bull Dum Diversas and Papal Bull Pontifex: [QUOTE] Dum Diversas (English: Until different) is a papal bull issued on 18 June 1452 by Pope Nicholas V. It authorized Afonso V of Portugal to conquer Saracens and pagans and consign them to "perpetual servitude".[1][2] Pope Calixtus III reiterated the bull in 1456 with Inter Caetera (not to be confused with Alexander VI's), renewed by Pope Sixtus IV in 1481 and Pope Leo X in 1514 with Precelse denotionis. The concept of the consignment of exclusive spheres of influence to certain nation states was extended to the Americas in 1493 by Pope Alexander VI with Inter caetera.[/QUOTE] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dum_Diversas In effect this turned all Christians, even those not part of any royal lineage or order to be part of the 'crusading knights' of Christ. The Knightly Crusading orders are therefore the foundation template for all secret societies in America, which is why all of them feature shields, crests and other military symbols and many often dress up as knights at various functions. And therefore, the black man has always symbolized the ultimate evil going back the symbolic 'black demon' in Spain or "The Dragon" slayed by King George, which also symbolizes mans lower nature being subdued by the higher nature. But in white supremacy black people become symbolized as the living manifestation of lower intelligence, lower nature and lower spheres of existence which must be slain by those seeking the "light" of progress and prosperity. Which is ultimately what you see manifest in most racist doctrines around the world. Even though all of this is based on ancient concepts that originated with black people.... like Horus/Set etc. [QUOTE]Originally posted by lamin: [qb] [QUOTE][b]So how do you end racism in America?[/b][/QUOTE]. That's not the right question. The first question is how could blacks gain parity with Asians and Jews in terms educational attainment and become as economically independent and wealthy as those 2 groups? The second question is how could blacks gain parity with Asians in terms of incarceration rates and relations to the police? [/qb][/QUOTE]As far as Asians go, we need to stop lumping them in with our struggle. Asians are benefiting from all the fighting and dying that black folks did in the 50s and 60s when Asians couldn't come here. So most Asians who are in America today have never faced any racism. They came from intact communities with their own culture and language which they are allowed to maintain in America as opposed to Africans being stripped of their language and culture. They come from among the best and brightest elements within their respective communities and are not the poor and uneducated masses that you see all over places like India and China. They were educated primarily in Asian primary and high schools before coming to America for college and therefore weren't affected by any form of education discrimination. And more importantly these people aren't here to fight racism and especially not to fight racism against black folks. They are being allowed into the country to be a buffer against blacks and to be used as a brain drain to help America and the West continue to dominate Asia economically and socially. So even though it is blacks that fought, struggled and sacrificed for America to change and make it possible to come here, the first thing they do is to spit in black folks faces and kick them in the face as a sign of appreciation.... (See black folks keeping Asians from getting into college, affirmative action is racist as an example). This same pattern of Colonists and racists using Asians as the "preferred" minority group to be a buffer against blacks is seen all over the world. They used Indians the Caribbean and Africa the same way. Indians own more resources and wealth in Africa than Africans do. Yet how much of the wealth and resources of India do Africans own? And how are Africans treated in India and China? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8egcMs-SStc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfzH4XTU1T0 (Why on earth do Africans have to depend on India and China when those folks got everything they know from the West in the first place? Why cant Africans get the knowledge and training from the west and build their own infrastructure? Kind of silly isn't it in this age of "global trade and migration"?) European colonies are all about taking and stealing all the resources and land necessary (the entire planet) in order to elevate the standard of living and intellect of a certain group of people over all others. And it just goes to show that given the right resources and environment any population can succeed and do great things. However, as racism goes, they will OUTRIGHT deny these same resources and benefits to black folks to keep them from ever being able to challenge whites in their superior position. So that is the issue you should focus on. Because they are just using Asians as flunkies to do their dirty work for them just like poor European peasants were all to happy to get a better life in the "new world" while looking the other way at genocide and slavery. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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