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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by lamin: [qb] Doug, If what you are saying is true then Africans would never have militated--both politically and militarily--for "independence" from Europe's colonial powers. Despite the influence of mission schools which down-graded traditional religions many leaders emerged who militated for "independence". The colonially compliant leaders were the ones the Colonial Powers endorsed to lead their countries, the non-compliant ones were jailed and/or assassinated. Examples:Lumumba(murdered by Belgium and the U.S. by way of Mobutu), Mondlane, Garang, Biko, Moumie( poisoned by the French at a Swiss airport), Cabral, etc. Wars were fought in Algeria, Angola, Mozambique, Guinea Bissau, Kenya, Namibia, Sudan, Zimbabwe, South Africa, Congo, etc. Nkrumah had serious plans for development but was overthrown by a military coup with the blessings of Britain and the U.S. Little progress is being made because the independent African nations are overwhelmed by massive corruption and little considerations for the rights of their citizens by the ruling political classes. It is doubtful that the massive corruption derives from the West. Just pure human agency and a huge contempt for the poorer citizens of the African nations. Consider how elections are rigged(Kenya, etc) or how Presidents seek to overturn their legal mandates(Congo, Burundi, etc.). [/qb][/QUOTE]You say the West started wars and installed corrupt dictators who overthrew true African nationalists and then you turned around and said you don't see how the West is behind the corruption. Seriously? I am not going to sit here and debate someone that confused in their own head.... Here is some stuff to help you out since you don't like to do your own research. It is 2017 and you folks can look this up yourself. [QUOTE] "Economic hit men,” John Perkins writes, “are highly paid professionals who cheat countries around the globe out of trillions of dollars. Their tools include fraudulent financial reports, rigged elections, payoffs, extortion, sex, and murder.” John Perkins should know—he was an economic hit man. His job was to convince countries that are strategically important to the U.S.—from Indonesia to Panama—to accept enormous loans for infrastructure development, and to make sure that the lucrative projects were contracted to U. S. corporations. Saddled with huge debts, these countries came under the control of the United States government, World Bank and other U.S.-dominated aid agencies that acted like loan sharks—dictating repayment terms and bullying foreign governments into submission. This New York Times bestseller exposes international intrigue, corruption, and little-known government and corporate activities that have dire consequences for American democracy and the world. It is a compelling story that also offers hope and a vision for realizing the American dream of a just and compassionate world that will bring us greater security.[/QUOTE] https://www.amazon.com/Confessions-Economic-Hit-John-Perkins/dp/1576753018 [QUOTE] Nigeria's anti-corruption police said today that they will charge former US vice-president Dick Cheney over a $180m bribery case involving energy firm Halliburton.The announcement follows a probe into the construction of a liquefied natural gas plant in the conflict-ridden Niger Delta. Halliburton's top official in Nigeria has been summoned and 10 of its Nigerian and expat staff detained for questioning after a raid on the company's office in Lagos. Cheney was head of Halliburton before becoming George W Bush's vice-president in 2001. "We are filing charges against Cheney," said Femi Babafemi, a spokesman for the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC), adding that the charges were likely to be brought next week. He declined to give any further details on what the charges were or where they would be filed. Houston-based engineering firm KBR, a former Halliburton unit, pleaded guilty last year to US charges that it paid $180m in bribes between 1994 and 2004 to Nigerian officials to secure $6bn in contracts for the Bonny Island Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG) project in the Niger Delta.KBR and Halliburton reached a $579m settlement in America but Nigeria, France and Switzerland have conducted their own investigations into the case. Halliburton split from KBR in 2007 and has said that its current operations in Nigeria are unrelated.It has described last week's EFCC raid as "an affront against justice", said its offices were ransacked and personnel assaulted, and pledged to defend its staff against what it said were "completely false and outrageous actions". "As indicated in previous legal activity in the United States, one of the participants in the (Bonny Island) project was a subsidiary of Halliburton Company for part of that period of time," it said last week.[/QUOTE] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/dec/02/dick-cheney-halliburton-nigeria-corruption-charges As for Zimbabwe: http://www.newzimbabwe.com/columns-451-Britain+made+Mugabe,+and+they+dragged+whole+world+into+the+mess/columns.aspx [QUOTE] It's *Sir* Robert Mugabe to you, we knighted him when he was only murdering blacks by the 10,000 and allowing whites to keep the best land. .... Blah. WE knighted him, WE propped him up through decades of bloodshed, and WE only kicked off when he began seizing white farms. The end.[/QUOTE] https://twitter.com/barneyfarmer/status/921670625063784450 [/QB][/QUOTE]
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