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[QUOTE]Originally posted by mena7: [QB] Lamin stop kidding yourself. You are acting like a white liberal as if to say that white folks have no role in what goes on in Africa and it is all Africans fault. I don't deny that Africans have a responsibility to take charge of their own future. However, like I said, in order to produce that kind of African leadership you need institutions. And those institutions have to have an African first mindset. Those instutions don't exist in Africa and those that do are few and far between. Most Africans who are in leadership roles in Africa are educated or trained in Western Universities or by Western missionaries and funded by Western corporations or interests. All of this represents institutions that are not controlled by Africans and promote a non African agenda in the minds of African leaders. So in theory what you are saying is nice, but the facts on the ground say otherwise. Mugabe was educated in white schools in Rhodesia and then got honorary degrees from schools in England, if he did not actually attend any there. You keep trying to pretend that it is just simple and easy for Africans to rise to positions of power in Africa without being affected by foreign influence. The next president of Zimbabwe is going to have the same non African interests playing a role in their funding and backing as Mugabe and African leaders. That is just a fact. You can sit here an play all these games and deny those facts if you want but I choose not to. Africans are poor and with no money and resources you will go for whoever is feeding you and giving out money and in most cases this means non Africans. Now if there were Afrian billionaires who were paying off African leaders in corrupt deals that would be one thing, but in most cases it is foreign governments and foreign companies who have to money to bribe African officials..... So are you saying Mobutu who overthrew Patrice Lumumba wasn't influenced, educated and trained by Non Africans? Seriously? I don' get it with folks insisting on believing in nonsense when the facts are available online and plain as day. Everthing in this quote below supports what I am saying. Whatever it is you believe it isn't based on any historical facts. Mena: Nice post doug I think both you and Lamin are right, African countries are facing internal and external problems. The internal problems are the corruption of African governments and politicians, ethnic and tribal competition and hatred and adherence to foreign religions and superstition in some African religions. Those internal problems make Africa more vulnerable to external problems like the Imperialism and neocolonialism of European countries. The European never completely left Africa after the end of colonization. The Western Europeans left their secret societies, spy agencies, agents, education system and Western institution behind in Africa to still control Africa from Europe or their African embassy. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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