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Tyrannohotep
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In case people here didn't already know...

‘They sell Africans over there’: Libya’s slave trade

quote:
The world's most vulnerable, fleeing war and poverty back home, are being abused and auctioned off as slaves - a shocking danger facing migrants and refugees in Libya. It has been reported that hundreds of people are being auctioned in modern day slave markets in Libya for as little as $400.

Libya is the main transit hub for refugees and migrants attempting to reach southern Europe by sea. They are coming from countries like Nigeria, Eritrea, Guinea, Ivory Coast,, Gambia, Senegal, Sudan and Somalia.

The power vacuum in Libya after the fall of Muammar Gaddafi has made human trafficking and people smuggling a booming trade.

And the European Union's renewed strategy to stop migrants and refugees travelling across the Mediterranean has led to more people being stuck in the north African country without money or food.

For me, one of the most disturbing things about this trend is that it reminds me of all the North African Arab trolls I've seen in various places throughout the Internet. I'm talking about the ones who express racist contempt for the continent's indigenous (black) people. Those sort of racists could easily be running auctions like this!
 
lamin
Member # 5777
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Obama and Hillary destroyed Libya on fake anti-African charges against Gaddafi. What you see now are the results: Africans paying big money to people smugglers to drown in the Mediterranean or--in this instance--to be auctioned off as slaves in Libya.

Whose fault? Blames those stupid brain-dead African governments totally lacking in human empathy who just sit back and allow this kind of thing.

Further, the vastly corrupt governments in Africa have done very little to solve the massive unemployment problem in Africa. The very corrupt politicians in Africa know only 2 things: rig elections and steal money.

Life in this world has always been about the struggle for resources against nature and against other groups of humans.

Before the invention of machines humans with power forced other humans to do the heavy lifting for them--in terms of agricultural work, mining, etc. Weaker people succumbed to attacks from others in this regard.

In colonial times, France, Britain,Portugal, etc. enslaved Africans in Cape Verde, Mauritius, South Africa(abolished in 1834), Seychelles, Sao Tome e Principe, Angola, Mozambique, and other parts.

In precolonial times, there was the Afro-Arab enslavement of Africans in the East African islands of Zanzibar and Pemba. In other parts of Africa, there was the Islamically endorsed enslavement of Africans to parts of North Africa.

Slavery was practiced everywhere in the world as Greek, Roman, Chinese, Indian, Russian histories inform. And Jewish folklore informs us too that the Jews were enslaved in Egypt before their God intervened on their side and freed them to enter "the land of milk and honey".

But while literal Christianity does not endorse slavery, literal Islam does. [b]The African/black man entered Islam as a slave. Bilal was a slave of Muhammad, who bought and sold slaves. Interesting to note that for Muhammad one non-African slave was worth 2 African/black slaves.

The Islamic endorsement of slavery is such that in Mauritania, those who oppose slavery openly could be imprisoned for militating against this extra pillar of Islam. The enslavement and auctioning of Yazidi females was a normal and accepted practice of ISIS.

So what is happening in Libya is one of the fruits U.S. imperial militarism against Libya by the Obama administration.
 
jantavanta
Member # 20328
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Protests are going on in Sweden but not in Africa. I would have posted the photo but it is larger than the forum's recommended size.

@lamin I heared Mauritania escaped from the Economic Community of West African States and ran to the African Union to avoid sanctions against slavery.

http://www.nairaland.com/4203461/libya-slave-trade-market-booms#62799284
 
jantavanta
Member # 20328
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quote:
Originally posted by lamin:
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But while literal Christianity does not endorse slavery, literal Islam does. ......

But there is a passage in the New Testament of the Bible that says "Slaves obey your Masters." In addition, slaves taken to the Americas were give Christian slave names.

In addition, the Tordesillas Treaty approved by the The Pope was the basis for Portugal to enslave Africans.

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Author(s): Pope Alexander VI (later confirmed
and ratified by Pope Julius II in 1506)

Signatories: Ferdinand II of Aragon
Isabella I of Castile
John, Prince of Asturias
John II of Portugal

"To divide trading and colonising rights for all newly discovered lands of the world located between Portugal and Castile (later applied between the Spanish Crown and Portugal) to the exclusion of other European nations."
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Tordesillas
 
lamin
Member # 5777
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quote:
But there is a passage in the New Testament of the Bible that says "Slaves obey your Masters." In addition, slaves taken to the Americas were give Christian slave names.
You are correct, but that statement comes from Paul(Ephesians 6:5-9)who lived after Christ's death. Literal Christianity comprises of the actual words and teachings of Christ. But such teachings have been abused in the case of the enslavement of Africans in Africa(Cape Verde, Angola, South Africa, Mauritius, etc.)and the Americas.

But the very interesting thing is that Africans in general accept the results of the abuse at the hands Christianity and Islam.

Africans have chosen to remain faithful to Christianity and Islam and fully accept Christian and Islamic control of their spiritual lives. The Church and the Mosque are central to the lives of millions of Africans. Thousands of Africans travel to Macca each year to bow down to Arab cultural imperialism in the form of the Hajj.

The impact of European slavery has been so profound on Africans transported to the Americas that they have chosen to remain--unlike the Jews who begin the cultural history with Exodus--in the lands of their ongoing oppression
fervently hoping one day that they would be accepted as social and racial equals in the lands where they were cruelly exploited. The vast majority would reject being referred to as "African" rather than "black". In North Africa, the indigenous Africans quietly accept the status of inferiority imposed on them by the Arab settlers who swept into North Africa and Sudan bearing an oppressive Islam.
 
lamin
Member # 5777
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Macron blames Africans for the Libyan slave markets.

https://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Macron-Blames-African-Traffickers-for-Libyas-Slave-Trade-20171129-0005.html
 
Linda Fahr
Member # 21979
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Macron was ridiculous, and obnoxious, to blame Africans slavery in Libya. Actually, this massive migration increased considerable after Obama and Hillary bombed Libya, and let to the French air force to finished the carnage. In fact, Americans worked with the French president "Nicolas Sarkozy" to destroy Libya.

However, I agreed that Africans themselves have a long history of complicity in slavering and selling their own people to Arabs and Europeans. In accordance to the slave trade history, African kings beside sold, they also exchanged African humans for cheap glass beads made in Venice -Italy. Do you think Africans humans were worth cheap glass beads? Oh...please...Africans should know better than that! In the video below made by United Nations, we can see how brutal African males can be to their own people. I think Africans males can do better than that. They are intelligent enough to distinguish right from wrong, and have the intellectual capacity to know what they did and are doing is wrong! In Uganda, the Elite still blooding sacrificing poor children
believing children sacrifices will made them more rich. What religion beliefs are that? Young girls of age eleven being sold into marriage in marriage for few cows? When African politicians and intellectuals will educated their people?

In while, Africans billionaires and politicians are laundering billions of dollars, pounds and Euros robbed from education, sanitation, infrastructure, and health sectors, to deposit in European and American banks, and expending millions of pounds, dollars and euros in lavish families wedding parties for their families in Europe. Rich Africans, including politicians of course, are buying hundred of millions in real states, sport and luxury cars in Britain, France, and America, instead investing in their own people, which are living in less than a dollar per day,illiterate, without paved roads, electricity, clean drinking water, but, they know how to make wars, wars, and more wars, which also contributed for the massive migration to North Africa and Europe. Poverty, unemployment, wars, and lack of opportunities, are the reasons that Africans are massively migrating to North Africa and Europe as well... In fact, African politicians and Elite, by laundering billions to European banks, and investing hundred of millions in real states in Europe, and paying millions more in annual real states taxes, are helping to educate, and providing health care to european populations instead to help their own...

I am posting two videos. One old documentary from United Nations, about the brutality of Africans against Africans in the process to sell Africans to Arabs slave buyers, and another one of recent Patrick Lumumba speech in South Africa independence day.

TAKE YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS...Because, I already have mine....

Patrick Lumumba Speech which has Shocked Africa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm5iS69TZSY&list=RDChbGqeAPPYo&index=4

Islam and Slavery The facts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3pdlpbpxmo
 
Linda Fahr
Member # 21979
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AFRICAN REALITY CONTROLLED BY CORRUPTED AND THIEVES AFRICAN ELITES AND POLITICIANS - BY AFRICAN PROFESSOR LUMUMBA.

Speech by Prof PLO Lumumba at the 3rd Anti Corruption Convention
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cbEuwqKKqE&index=5&list=RDChbGqeAPPYo
 
lamin
Member # 5777
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@LF
What you say above is known so nothing new there. But you exaggerate vastly in comparative terms about African male violence. The vast majority live their relatively peaceful but economically poor lives as they eke out a living in their villages or towns and cities.

In strict quantitative terms European males take the big prize. France, Britain, Germany, Spain, Portugal,Turkey and Arabia have the most violent males on earth. You must be aware of the murderous violence of German commander von Trotha in his genocidal campaign against the Herero of Namibia in 1904-05

It's very rare for girls as young as 1 are sold off for cows--and if so, they must be Muslims in the infamous tradition of their so-called Prophet who married a 6 year old.

The major problem in Africa is greedy, corrupt and ignorant politicians--many of whom are now seen on TV decked out in expensive suits as they grin and welcome to Abidjan their "family" of Puppet Masters from Europe.

It always take 2 to tango so the corrupt thieves who bank their stolen monies in European banks are in complicity with the governments of Europe who know full well that stolen monies are plumping up their balance sheets.


Corrupt governments in the EU are fully complicit in accepting the cheap labor harvests smuggled into Europe to serve as cheap labor and petty drug traffickers.

There have been African leaders who have sought to make things better for Africa but have been eliminated in the world's ongoing wars of real politik.


A possible solution is for those Africans who pay at $5,000 to escape to Europe chasing fool's gold, to revolt against their corrupt leaders and just drive them from power. The latest ones to bite the dust due to machinations from Europe in collusion with vile politicians in Africa are Ghaddafi of Libya and Sankara of Burkina Faso.

The slave markets in Libya? LOL. That's intrinsic to Islam. Ask those Yazidi girls and women sold as slaves by ISIS. The Libyan slave markets are just a follow-up.
 
mena7
Member # 20555
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Mena: This outrageous that in 2017 Black Africans are being sold in open slave markets in the country of Libya located in the African continent. Their should have been an emergency meeting of the OAU to pressure the Libyan governement to stop the slave trade in Libya. OAU should threaten to put sanctions on Libya or invade southern Libya with its army from the country of Niger and Mali.

I agree with Lamin it looks like many African Chief of states are only paying leap service to African problems in reality they are only concern about power and money.

The first Emperor of Chin Qin Shi Huangti who reigned from 221 to 202 BCE was the first ruler in the world who officially abolished slavery. The British in the 19 cent CE because of the many African slave revolt in the American colonies, the successful Haitian anti slavery revolution and the beginning of the industrial revolution abolished the African Slave Trade.

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Chinese Emperor Qin Shi Huangti


lamin :African charges against Gaddafi. What you see now are the results: Africans paying big money to people smugglers to drown in the Mediterranean or--in this instance--to be auctioned off as slaves in Libya.

Whose fault? Blames those stupid brain-dead African governments totally lacking in human empathy who just sit back and allow this kind of thing.

Further, the vastly corrupt governments in Africa have done very little to solve the massive unemployment problem in Africa. The very corrupt politicians in Africa know only 2 things: rig elections and steal money.

Life in this world has always been about the struggle for resources against nature and against other groups of humans.

Before the invention of machines humans with power forced other humans to do the heavy lifting for them--in terms of agricultural work, mining, etc. Weaker people succumbed to attacks from others in this regard.

In colonial times, France, Britain,Portugal, etc. enslaved Africans in Cape Verde, Mauritius, South Africa(abolished in 1834), Seychelles, Sao Tome e Principe, Angola, Mozambique, and other parts.

In precolonial times, there was the Afro-Arab enslavement of Africans in the East African islands of Zanzibar and Pemba. In other parts of Africa, there was the Islamically endorsed enslavement of Africans to parts of North Africa.

Slavery was practiced everywhere in the world as Greek, Roman, Chinese, Indian, Russian histories inform. And Jewish folklore informs us too that the Jews were enslaved in Egypt before their God intervened on their side and freed them to enter "the land of milk and honey".

Mena: Nice post Lamin slavery as an institution didnt exist in Ancient Egypt. The Ancient Egyptians believed that working was a requirement in order to received eternal life from the Neteru. In the Egyptian tombs you can see painting of Egyptian families proudly working as farmers and artisans. There was the punishment of force labor in Ancient Egypt for debtors, criminals and prisoner of wars. The Jews were laborers and miners in Ancient Egypt. With the Hyksos the Jews ruled Southern Egypt. The Jews were part of the ruling class and priesthood of Ancient under Pharaoh Akhenaton in the Amarna period.


Jantavanta :But there is a passage in the New Testament of the Bible that says "Slaves obey your Masters." In addition, slaves taken to the Americas were give Christian slave names.

In addition, the Tordesillas Treaty approved by the The Pope was the basis for Portugal to enslave Africans.

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Mena: Nice post Jantavanta I will add Pope Nicholas II Dom Diversas Papal Bull authorized the enslavement of Black Africans by Portugal and Spain therefore authorizing and legalizing the African Slave Trade.

Dum Diversas (English: Until different) is a papal bull issued on 18 June 1452 by Pope Nicholas V. It authorized Afonso V of Portugal to conquer Saracens and pagans and consign them to "perpetual servitude".[1][2] Pope Calixtus III reiterated the bull in 1456 with Inter Caetera (not to be confused with Alexander VI's), renewed by Pope Sixtus IV in 1481 and Pope Leo X in 1514 with Precelse denotionis. The concept of the consignment of exclusive spheres of influence to certain nation states was extended to the Americas in 1493 by Pope Alexander VI with Inter caetera

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Pope Nicholas V
 
lamin
Member # 5777
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The solution to the problem of the stupidity and shameless behavior of Africa's worthless governments is with the African people themselves not the white nations of Europe.

Charity begins at home. The AU(no longer OAU) comprises a bunch of ignorant and greedy fools are a disgrace to the African continent. The destruction of Libya by the U.S., France, Britain, and NATO was voted for by Nigeria and South Africa. The fools at the AU scurried back and forth to get a deal between Ghaddafi and the NATO Alliance but all that was brushed aside by the triumvirate of the U.S., France, and Britain.

There are very obvious ways to stop the disgraceful flight from continent by people who pay as much as $10,000 to make the trip--across the Sahara then onto a boat for Europe. The smuggling routes are known and can be easily spotted from the air. But Europe is still hungry for African slaves and the lazy, ignorant bunch at the AU just allow it

 
Linda Fahr
Member # 21979
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@lamin

I agree with you that the majority of African people are lovely, and peaceful people, beside high level of intelligence, they are amazingly and naturally creative in Arts of all forms.
However, West Africa was invaded, and conquered by an ethnic group of North African people mixed with middle eastern, and Berbers, which today are called Fulani, which infiltrated the West African populations adopting their languages, culture and tribal names. They control governments, business, trade, and are major land owners. They even became kings in the past, and still kings and aristocratic families in West Africa today. They look like Africans, but, their ascendants were from the Middle East(Syria) mixed with North African Berbers. They were the first to accepted Islam as religion in West Africa, and became Islamic priests. Then, they went on conquering by war all tribes, and established their own kingdoms in West Africa, including Nigeria. Until today they are killing native Africans that live in the region and farming since paleolithic period. They are majority Muslims,but,they are Christians and pagans as well. They are the majority of politicians that accept millions in bribes from European and American corporations that do business in Nigeria, and the entire West Africa. To hide the bribes money, the money are deposit in European and American banks.
They don't stop killing, massacring and stealing lands from native West Africans. In Nigeria, Fulani that still living as herdsmen, are beasts. They are killing entire populations to take their villages and lands to raise and grazing their cattles. One of their attacks was in Benue States in Nigeria, where they killed over 300 Agatu people. I am posting the massacre link for you. The government officials do nothing, or almost nothing because they are Fulani, or Fulani descents as well. In fact, the Fulani people, are exterminating natives West Africans, since they arrived in the region about 900 years or so ago. With the decadence and fall of the Ottoman Empire, hundred of thousands of them that were living in North Africa, migrated to West Africa. Many of them settled and are living in Mauritania, where the slavery were only formally abolish in the 1980s, but the law was enforced only in 2005. Even if they have dark skin or light brown color, they still discriminating against African natives. Actually, African natives school children can't even ride in the same bus with Fulani children living in Mauritania. The Mauritania Fulani people racism against Africans Natives are intolerable, and it must end!!!

There is one Fulani nomadic tribe that still conquering people in Africa. They are the Wodaabe. They live in Niger and Chad. They are nomadic cattle herders found in the Sahel, that spreads across several countries from the West to the East of Africa. But, the majority still in Chad. They makeup their faces with colors and dance to attract African girls. By inter marry to Africans females, they infiltrate even more into African populations and African lands. This particular group didn't completed their conquering tasks yet.

Here is some of their attacks on Natives West Africans.

February 27, 2016
Agatu massacre: Idoma plans mass protest at National Assembly
DAILY POST recalls that suspected Fulani herdsman had in a recent attack on the community reportedly killed no fewer than 300 persons
http://dailypost.ng/2016/02/27/agatu-massacre-idoma-plans-mass-protest-at-national-assembly/


Oct 17, 2017
Despite curfew, suspected Fulani herdsmen kill 27 in fresh Plateau attack
http://punchng.com/fulani-herdsmen-defy-curfew-kill-27-in-plateau-attack/


Oct 27, 2017
Herdsmen Attacks: 75 Killed, 13726 Displaced In Plateau

The Stephanos Foundation says no fewer than 75 people were killed while 23 others were injured following attacks by suspected Fulani herdsmen in two communities in Irigwe Kingdom, Bassa Local Government Area of Plateau State.
http://saharareporters.com/2017/10/27/herdsmen-attacks-75-killed-13726-displaced-plateau

Actually, those are only few links of the Fulani extermination of Native Nigerians. There are a long history of massacres since Fulani first arrived from North Africa into West Africa....
 
Linda Fahr
Member # 21979
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To Mena7

I am surprised to know from you that slavery in China was abolished in 202 BC, because the majority of torture tools and torture devices used during slavery in Africa, to capture, imprison and tortured Africans, applied by Arabs, African Islamic Fulani, Christians Europeans and Jews, which were also applied by plantations owners on their African slaves in American plantations, were invented in China, which were introduced in the Middle East, and Europe by the Huns, and Mongol invaders. In fact, the Mongoloids Chinese and Mongoloids from Mongolia, were the most brutal, cruel and destructive creatures in the human history, only to be compared to ancient Assyrian beasts.
In fact,beside the Chinese invented torture tools and torture devices, they invented as well the practice of "impaling" which they applied bamboo, to impaled their own peoples.

As I know, historically, slavery in China was never completely abolished before 1910. It had a decline during land privatization in 400s to 200s BC. The final anti slavery law was applied only in 1910, but,slavery in China continued until 1949.

In fact, males castration is also Chinese invention dated from ancient China. Male castrations in China was legal until the last Chinese Emperor Puyi from the Qing dynasty was deposed during Xinhai Revolution in 1912. The truth is, that the Chinese Emperor Puyi court was surround by castrated slaves and servants Eunuchs.
And were those mongoloid people that introduced castration in Turkey, and Middle East as well, resulting in millions of Africans males slaves castrations in Turkey and the Middle East by Arabs slave owners.

I am descent of African slave. She was transported to America by a Jewish slave trade Vessel. This is the reason I searched for months the origin of torture tools and torture devices used to torture slaves in the America Continent. First, I tough torture tools and torture devices were developed by Europeans.

Now...I know that Europeans are racists, but nowadays, they have more respect and tolerance for Africans than Chinese, and all mongoloid people from East Asia Countries, where Africans are not welcome, and many times, Africans are attacked and killed in China, including in India, which are the most racist and intolerant country of all Asian countries.
 
lamin
Member # 5777
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@Linda Fahr

You just keep writing nonsense. Please find another site for your stupidities.

Most likely you have never traveled to Africa so you are just spouting nonsense.


The Fulani people are from West Africa and their language is linguistically West African Niger Kordofanian. Guinea(Conakry) is the country in West Africa where the Fulani are the majority.

Guinea Fulani
https://www.google.com/search?q=guinea++fulani++images&client=firefox-b&dcr=0&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjV65nzhenXAhWBaFAKHXAeB5MQ7AkIRA&biw=1067&bih=491

Ibo, Nigeria
https://www.google.com/search?q=igbo+females+nigeria+images&client=firefox-b&dcr=0&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwij2I6gj-nXAhVDKuwKHb_5AoQQ7AkITQ&biw=1067&bih=491

Hausa Images, Nigeria
https://www.google.com/search?q=hausa++females++images++nigeria&client=firefox-b&dcr=0&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiIwr24junXAhXL66QKHWnDAioQ7AkIMg&biw=1067&bih=491

Fulani Sultan of Sokoto
https://www.google.com/search?q=sultan+of++sokoto++images&client=firefox-b&dcr=0&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwickP7tk-nXAhUS46QKHat_BJYQ7AkIQA&biw=1067&bih=491
 
Linda Fahr
Member # 21979
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@lamin

Calm mr. Fula. You don't need to bark and behave like a “rabid dog” towards me, as an agressive and acidic creature suffering from chronic Cognitive dissonance. Ouch!
Besides, can you do better than posting unorganized google search links without specific detailed objective? Or maybe, you tought I would waste my time by clicking on dozens of link options?
Now, let's get on the point to discuss the significance of the subject with rationality. Starting with the origin and meaning of these related names - Fula, Fulan, Fulani, Fulano, Fellas, Fellah, Bororo.

1 - Fula - Arab origin
Common in North Africa, Middle East, Spain and Portugal, Brazil. In these regions it means: Vile, rotten, ugly, iniquitous and corrupt person.

2 - Fulani = Fulano= Fulan. Fulana =female. Arab origin.
Common in North Africa, Middle East, Spain, Portugal, Brazil.
Males and females without importance, insignificant, without name, without self identity or cultural background. Equal to "Volkerwanderung", name given to members of barbarian tribes invaders of Central Europe.

3 - Fellah - Arab origin.
plural = Fellahin - Common in all Arab countries, including North Africa, Egypt, Syria
Poor people, poor farmers, peasants.
Egyptian Arabs, named and called Fellhin, 60% of impoverished native population of Upper Egypt, which are living in mud huts.

3 - Fellas - In the United States of America, urban dictionary
Friends or people that you like. People you are often with and treat as close people to you.

4 - Bororo people - Before their integration among Native tribes and became "Fulas", adopting their language and culture, they were originaly from Northeast of Pakistan - Punjab region. They started migrate towards West soon after the invasion into the region by Sultan Mahmud Ghaznavi. Initially, they settled in Iran, then Turkey, North Africa and Europe. about thousand years ago.

In fact, were Arabs from North Africa and Middle East, including Syrians of course, that introduced the derogatory term " Fulani" in West Africa, Sahael, Egypt, and as far as in South America which by ignorance was adopted as an ethnological name by segments of West African population they converted, or not to Islam.

Millions of "Fulanis" living in West Africa are in fact descendants of North Africans Berbers, Middle East Arabs, Islamic white Persians, and migrating people from Northeast of Pakistan - Punjab region, (they became the Bororo people, which painting their faces to atract African females), and Jews as well, that were expelled from Spain by the Visigoths before, 6th century, and after. They settled in North Africa and West Africa.
Fula people, early habitat in West Africa was in an area in the vicinity of the borders of present-day Mali, Senegal and Mauritania. Does it rings the bell????


Many Fulanis from North Africa, were North African Islamic foot soldiers, sons of Arabs, Berbers, and Black North Africans males with white Armenian and Circassian slaves and refugees concumbines, which had subsahran black female slaves to bathing, cooking, and work for them. White female slaves always were prefered for procriation by North African Black males, Berbers and Middle Eastern Arabs. They were called by them " "FAVORITES".

Their penetration into the Sahel, and West Africa, on beggining started with trade centuries before West Africa starting converted to Islam, and European arrival in the region. By then, thousands of West African slaves were sent to North Africa, Middle East and Europe.

West Africa and Sahel slave trade increased considerably in the 700s with the invasion of of Iberia by Umayyad Caliphate. We can see Iberian illustrations dated from early high middle ages, barefoot black male children slaves dressed in rag clothes, playing music beside Visigoth Christian white boys wearing shoes and well dressed. But, many African Americans historians only focused on illustrations of Black adult males playing Chess game while being served by white slave female dated after the Arab conquest of South Liberia. Also during conflicts of Almoravid and Almohad Caliphate. That's why

Another favorite painter of African American historians is Ludwig Deutsch. But, the majority of Ludwig Deutsch paintings they shown in their historical sites are of dark and light skinned Mullatos Chieftans of North Africa and Spain which they proundly called "Black Moor". The term Mulatto is always apply by American Afrocentrist historians in a derogative way, but, in history, they considered those Mulattos as a Negros, only to emphasize their African History. They don't shown Ludwig Deutsch paintings of Black African eunuchs beside their white Syrians, Iranians,Turkish and Arab masters, nor they show black female slaves bathing and serving white females concubines.
They don't say or write about the Kingdom of Bornu - King Edris of Bornu in the 1352 was active in trade African native slaves and African natives eunuchs with Tekadda on the north- eastern border. Other North African Fulas, migrated into West Africa by hundred of thousands during the Morocco invasion of West Africa in the 1500s.

The "Fula" people (Fulani) dominated the region from the Fouta Djallon. The Fulani created an Islamic theocracy, thereafter began slave raids as a part of jihad that impacted many native West African native ethnic groups including the Susu people which eventually, became slave traders, and slaves themselves, which were sold by Fulanis to Arab and Europeans slave traders. In particular, states Ismail Rashid, the Jihad effort of Fulani elites starting in the 1720s theologically justified enslavement of the non-Islamic people and also led to successful conversion of previously animist peoples to Islam.

In fact, the "Fulas" attacked, killed, slaved, and sold into slavery the "LOVELY, ADORABLE, HIGHLY CIVILIZED VERY ANCIENT JOLA PEOPLE.
The Jola people migrated from Upper Egypt into West Africa to escaped African human hunters slave traders from Sudan, Kenya, and Zanzibar and by Arabs and Mameluks slave traders from Egypt. We can see them in ancient Egyptians Tombs paintings as agricultural workers, wearing head cover to protected their hair from rice dust.
At first, West African kings sent their warriors to invaded and capture Jola people to sale them into slavery to Portuguese which had slave plantations in the Islands of Tenerife, São Tomé and Príncipe, Cape Verde and Azores to work as slaves in their sugar cane plantations . Then, by 1700s the " "Fulas" sold them into slavery to their British ally to be taken to Britain’s American colonies, where they were prized for their rice-growing skills.
REMEMBER, ALL THIS HAPPENED BEFORE EUROPEAN COLONIZATION! By that time, Europeans had posts in different kingdoms by West African Coast, and paid taxes to African kings every time they ancored their vessels in their ports, and taxes for every time captured slaves from another kingdoms crossed their lands toward the Coast, where slaves where batized, and their skins marked with hot iron before they were place into Vessels...Beside profiting from every slave captured and sold to Europeans, Jewish and Arab slave traders.

Tunde Obadina, a director of Africa Business Information Services, has acknowledged the importance of Britain, and other Western countries, in ending the slave trade. "When Britain abolished the slave trade in 1807," he has written, "it not only had to contend with opposition from white slavers, but also from African rulers who had become accustomed to wealth gained from selling slaves or from taxes collected on slaves passed through their domain. African slave-trading classes were greatly distressed by the news that legislators sitting in Parliament in London had decided to end their source of livelihood. But for as long as there was demand from the Americas for slaves, the lucrative business continued".

As Thomas Sowell, a black conservative American scholar, has pointed out the efforts of the European nations to wipe out slavery have been virtually ignored. "Incredibly late in human history", he writes, "a mass moral revulsion finally set in against slavery - first in 18th-century England, and then during the 19th Century, throughout Western civilisation. But only in Western civilisation ... Africans, Arabs, and Asians continued to resist giving up their slaves. In fact, West African rullers sent their ambassadors to London to protest against slavery abolition. They resisted to the last minute, when the British started bombing their slaves factories, and ports.
Which mean, by 1900s Africans Natives were slaves of their own people, in their native lands of West Africa as well...Including in Ethiopia, where the Royal family had over 30 thousand slaves captured in South of Ethiopia. Slavery in Ethiopia was only abolished in 1942. But, I see many Africans and Africans Americans males, including American Islamic priests idolatrate Emperor Haile Selassie as the Greatest King ever, they go as far as called him "king of kings" even if he resisted slavery abolition for about a century. Mauritania and Mali the region from where Fulas entered West Africa, from North of Senegal, only legally abolished slavery in 1960s and hundreds of thousands of people are still enslaved there in 2015, despite the law.

The most recent shock I had from Africans, was when I read an article writen by an African from Nigeria on their site, stating that , Asante Empire participated in the slave trade but only on selected basis,for the "ransom of wars" = captives, and the "people who disobeyed the culture and traditions". Which they slaved and sold into slavery over 3 million Native Africans.
Now tell me, which traditions were that? SLAVERY? WARS?
 
lamin
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Again, you are just parroting nonsensical colonial propaganda. I know hundreds of Foulah people so clearly you views are inconsequential and have no effect on readers in the know.
 
IronLion
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Lamin is Fulani...
 
Karem
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Tyrannohotep says;

"For me, one of the most disturbing things about this trend is that it reminds me of all the North African Arab trolls I've seen in various places throughout the Internet. I'm talking about the ones who express racist contempt for the continent's indigenous (black) people. Those sort of racists could easily be running auctions like this!"

Your more concerned by supposed 'North African Arab trolls' online than the actual horrific situation in Libya ?
How does a sad lonely 'North African Arab troll' go from annoying people online, to 'running auctions like this'


Out of interest, what were you doing when Libya was being bombed by the west ie were you out protesting or offering any sort of critique on Western imperialism ?

Lastly, and not to downplay Arab racism, but do you seriously think they have the time and energy to troll people on the internet about race ? From what I've observed on this site, a lot of these so-called 'Arab trolls' seem more likely to be sock-puppets.
Also, beyond 'North African Arab trolls' you encounter online, do you have any real world interactions with people from the MENA ? Are you good friends with any (real world friends, not virtual) ?
 
the lioness,
Member # 17353
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^ A message form the UK
 
Linda Fahr
Member # 21979
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It is also shocking to me, to see defense on behalf of Arabs. In fact, was Saudi Arabia that helped to plan Libya invasion, with the French, British and United States. Were the Saudis that sent Arabs barbarians to the region, which killed, tortured,and expelled the last survivers Native black Libyans, already living in isolation, and black descendants of ancient Upper Egypt which were living in the city of Tawargha long before the Phoenicians arrival. Tawargha was founded by the king Tarharqa, when he invaded North Africa and colonized Iberia.

The Saudis wanted revenge on Kaddafi, because he deposed an Arab King Idris, which was a Saudi ally, making Libya a Saudi stronghold.

Saudi's army of Middle Eastern, Central Asian,Libyan Arabs rebels, and Georgian criminal thugs, attacked and burned every single Black town in the Fezzan region. In fact, are white and brown Arabs of Zwai tribe, that is trafficking Subsahran Africans into Libya, and selling them as slave. In the process, they are having confrontation, are black people, and burn their town of Kufra, which is controlled by the Black tribes of Tubu, and Tuaregs, which are in charge of the Subsharan border with Libya.

Were Arabs criminal thugs, that served as foot soldiers that help the French invaders living in Libya to conquered Cyneraica, making it their federalist state, and taken control of all Libya oil fields, and Benghazi's National Oil Corporation.

Not forgetting that was french president Nicholas Sarkozy of a Jewish-Hun ascendance from Hungary, that back-stabbed Kaddafi, by bombing Libya with NATO, and sending french secret agents to infiltrate Arab thugs groups, to finally kill Kaddaffi, after received from Kaddafi 60 million euros for his presidential campaign, with the promise to built a nuclear plant in Libya and to sell combat planes to Kaddafi, what never happened.

Nicholas Sarkozy plan to kill Kaddafi was published in detail on Egyptian, Italian and British Media.

It is a historical criminal legacy in Libya, made by Arabs Saudis nomads peasants, sons of Circassian and Armenians concubines, that were conveniently made as a kings and Princes by the British colonialists, Nicholas Sarcozy a French born Jewish-Hun from Hungary, and the British David Cameron, which he and his wife, are descents of plantations owners, that became extremely rich by trading agricultural products in New York, produced by thousands of their African slaves in many Caribbean Islands,including Jamaica.

Just for the sake of historical records..
 



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