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"Darwinists don't accept direction in evolution." -- Swenet
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [QB] [b] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: The statement that god is not needed in science comes from the Newtonian worldview. [/QUOTE][/b] [QUOTE] Space is an affection of a being just as a being. No being exists or can exist which is not related to space in some way. God is every where, created minds are somewhere, and body is in the space that it occupies; and whatever is neither everywhere nor anywhere does not exist. And hence it follows that space is an emanative effect of the first existing being, for if any being whatsoever is posited, space is posited. He endures always and is present everywhere, and by existing always and everywhere he constitutes duration and space. Since each and every particle of space is always, and each and every indivisible moment of duration is everywhere, certainly the maker and lord of all things will not be never or nowhere … God is one and the same God always and everywhere. He is omnipresent not only virtually but also substantially; for active power cannot subsist without substance. -- Issac Newton [/QUOTE][b] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: Whether or not the traditional god exists is irrelevant. The point is that claiming "we don't need [insert x] in science" is not a scientific statement. [/QUOTE][/b] yes saying "we don't need a deity in science" is not a scientific statement. similarly saying "we need a deity in science" is also not a scientific statement. Newton's view has been considered to be close to deism and several biographers and scholars labeled him as a deist who is strongly influenced by Christianity. However, he differed from strict adherents of deism in that he invoked God as a special physical cause to keep the planets in orbits. He warned against using the law of gravity to view the universe as a mere machine, like a great clock. He said: [i] This most beautiful system of the sun, planets, and comets, could only proceed from the counsel and dominion of an intelligent Being. [...] This Being governs all things, not as the soul of the world, but as Lord over all; and on account of his dominion he is wont to be called "Lord God" παντοκρατωρ [pantokratōr], or "Universal Ruler". [...] The Supreme God is a Being eternal, infinite, [and] absolutely perfect.[/i] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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