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"Darwinists don't accept direction in evolution." -- Swenet
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: OK. Replace Newton with Darwin. Its the same point. [b]But of course you will claim that Quantum Science is not mainstream science.... Right.[/b][/QUOTE]I fail to see how you jump from your derailed comment about Darwin to quantum physics. But I have already claimed that quantum physics is not mainstream science. And I have backed it up. What relevant quotes have you posted? Quantum science is not mainstream science. This was already explained to you several times, thread pages ago. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: [QUOTE][b]The Copenhagen interpretation was recently summarized as “Shut up and calculate!”[/b] That’s blunt, but not completely unfair. It is, in fact, the [b]right injunction for most physicists most of the time. The Copenhagen interpretation is the best way to deal with quantum mechanics for all practical purposes[/b]. It assures us that [b]in our labs or at our desks we can use quantum mechanics without needless worrying about what’s really going on.[/b] Copenhagen shows us that quantum mechanics is a fully consistent theory and sufficient as a guide to the physical phenomena around us. Good![/QUOTE][/QUOTE]They are not updating mainstream science with the full implications of quantum physics on any meaningful scale. They are just using it for things like electronics and then dropping it off at the lab when they go home. And I notice again, that you don't seem to understand what the conversations are about. What on earth is "sensory conciousness"? That is not the consciousness that people are talking about when they are talking about the hard problem of consciousness. You show a persistent lack of understanding what people are talking about. So on what basis are you trying to insist to people they have flaws in their argument? [QUOTE]So until you can show men how science trying to understand the genesis of single cell organisms is "newtonian", your point makes no sense. Quantum theory is not going to explain how single cell organisms came to be or how the animal phyla were created. Calling basic science in evolution, including genetics, "newtonian" is just a strawman. There is no such thing as 'newtonian' genetics. Or "newtonian" biology. That is simply absurd.[/QUOTE]The argument was that the Newtonian worldview Darwinism is based on is dead. Life does not originate from chemicals as life forms can't be reduced to chemicals. That was the argument you have yet to address after thread pages of persistent trolling. And you're still not addressing it. How do we get double slit experiment results from bodies of molecules and chemical reactions that exist outside the laws of nature? Can we replicate the double slit experiment's results by making robot dummies that look like humans? By letting chemicals react nearby? By using dummies consisting of any other Newtonian materials? I want some answers. Let's see if you can deliver. Don't run from these questions, then give me some opinionated rhetoric about quantum physics not explaining cells. Either address the point or you're not competent to have this conversation. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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