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"Darwinists don't accept direction in evolution." -- Swenet
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [QB] Doug made a reasonable argument on the previous page, obviously not trolling. But we are still caught up in what "Newtonian" means and what views are covered in "mainstream". [QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [b]Obviously you believe[/b] that the origin of life lay outside the "material" universe [/QUOTE] [QUOTE][b]is never going to find the answers in a purely materialist model[/b] of the universe.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: That's exactly what I'm saying. And you're too incompetent to challenge me on that, as we've seen over several thread pages. So your whole reason of being in this thread is for nothing. Why are you even here? You can't challenge me on anything. You're not saying anything productive. What is your point? [/QUOTE]So now we have a point of agreement Dougs say Swenet thinks [b] the origin of life lays outside the material universe and science is never going to find the answers in a purely materialist model of the universe.[/b] And because of this Swenet thinks the theory of Evolution where one species transforms into another is wrong no matter whose version it is Darwin or not. He criticizes Darwin mainly because Darwin is the most known for believing that one species can transform into another. He says that Darwin's theory of evolution comes from a Newtonian Worldview based on reductionism, determinism, materialism and is therefore wrong and that quantum physics disproves a deterministic model So now he's challenging Doug to prove evolution, the idea that one species can transform into another, is possible or worth believing in Swenet says the origin of life lays outside the "material" universe and that means outside of evolutionary theory of any type or brand of evolution. The origin of life did not occur by that type of process That it is what he's challenging Doug on [/QB][/QUOTE]
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