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"Darwinists don't accept direction in evolution." -- Swenet
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by sam p: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: [qb] The first way is to deny that the mental is an irreducible aspect of reality, [b]either (a) by holding that the mental can be identified with some aspect of the physical, such as patterns of behavior or patterns of neural activity, or (b) by denying that the mental is part of reality at all, being some kind of illusion[/b] (but then, illusion to whom?). [/qb][/QUOTE]I have a theory of everything that answers everything but appeases no one. There is simply no such thing as "intelligence" and our perception, our very thought, is merely an "illusion" created by modern language. We have consciousness like all life but on earth only humans have a symbolic and complex language. Up until about 2000 BC humans had a complex and representative language that was caused by and a result of its close ties to the wiring of the brain. By nature this language reflected all human knowledge and as human knowledge expanded the language became overly complex and failed; people simply couldn't manipulate it so one by one they switched to a pidgin form like ours that employed the same vocabulary. Words came to symbolize things and people became a product of our beliefs. This is critical to understanding human nature or most nature because from the perspective of beliefs (and particularly the belief humans are intelligent) it is difficult to see human nature and change in species. It is virtually impossible to see our own vast ignorance when we see only what we believe. If we didn't have an explanation for something we wouldn't see it at all. From this perspective the "laws of nature" simply disappear and instead they become part of the logic by which reality unfolds but all of this logic occurs for every event and every change. Mathematics itself becomes just a quantified form of this logic that is removed from reality and manipulated by people. If everything is unique then it follows there is no such thing as adding 1 and one to get a couple. I believe this theory will be "proven" in the not very distant future. It will show us a new way to view reality and a another way to study it that is like other animals but processed by computers. I believe that what really sets humans apart is that since 2000 BC we experience consciousness in a different way than other animals. There were no words for "thought", "belief", or "opinion" in ancient language because these terms had no referent in consciousness. From this perspective change in species looks very different. From this perspective everything looks much different. [/qb][/QUOTE]I don't understand all of it. Will read it a couple times over. But do you have some concrete things, such as archaeology to make it more tangible? The closest thing I can think of, that resembles your view is the biblical concept of the confusion of tongues at Babel, which the bible places at ~2300BC according to Ussher (close to your date of 2000BC). Although I doubt that's what you're referring to, since it's not an exact match. But you do seem to be talking about a common language before 2000BC. [IMG]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RDMjYUJE14E/Vd3i0gm1_wI/AAAAAAAAS4s/cdYq97MMoAM/s1600/234A-Image%2BPeleg%2Band%2Bthe%2BFlood.jpg[/IMG] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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