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yumadro
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Quite interesting. Not exactly what the whitewashed history telling tells you today. Cleopatra and the dynasty she belonged were drawn as black people by the Medieval painters.
 
the lioness,
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Detail of the busts of Cleopatra and Julius Caesar,
France, S.(Avignon)
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Moses
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Ancestors of Christ

Egerton 1500

Author Paolino Veneto
Title Abbreviamen de las Estorias (begins imperfectly), or Chronologia magna, up to the death of the Emperor Henry VII (d. 1314)
Origin France, S. (Avignon)
Date 2nd quarter of the 14th century (after 1323)
Language French (Provençal or Occitan)
Script Gothic
Decoration Tables of rulers, writers, and events, containing many portraits throughout and a few small miniatures, in colours and gold


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So this verifies Julius Caesar, Moses and the ancestors of Christ were white ?
 
lamin
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Dynastic Egypt came to an end with its Nubian dynasty--666BC. Then Egypt was invaded and defiled by savage hordes from Asia then by Greece.

Cleopatra has no authentic connection to Dynastic Egypt. She was possibly a some kind of half-breed strumpet that Westerners love to talk about in terms of her connection to Roman colonizer Antony.
 
the lioness,
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quote:
Originally posted by lamin:
[QB] Dynastic Egypt came to an end with its Nubian dynasty--666BC Then Egypt was invaded and defiled by savage hordes from Asia then by Greece.

The Assyrians came after the Kushites
 
xyyman
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Source?

quote:
Originally posted by yumadro:
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Quite interesting. Not exactly what the whitewashed history telling tells you today. Cleopatra and the dynasty she belonged were drawn as black people by the Medieval painters.


 
yumadro
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quote:
Originally posted by xyyman:
Source?


http://www.bl.uk/manuscripts/FullDisplay.aspx?ref=Egerton_MS_1500
 
the lioness,
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_________________________________ Ptolemy


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the lioness,
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The Making of
L’Abreujamen de
las estorias
(Egerton MS. 1500)


https://www.bl.uk/eblj/2013articles/pdf/ebljarticle162013.pdf

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an essay about this manuscript
 
the lioness,
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third column from right, Ptolomic pharaohs
 
lamin
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Puzzle. What is so special about Greek Cleopatra?

ES bloggers should know by now that Cleopatra was simply nothing but a booty call for Antony. The West loves to chatter about her while leaving authentic Egyptian personalities minimally discussed.
 
lamin
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@Lioness,

The Assyrians were invaders from West Asia. The Kushites were defeated by the Asian invader Syrians. What is your point?
 
the lioness,
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quote:
Originally posted by lamin:
@Lioness,

The Assyrians were invaders from West Asia. The Kushites were defeated by the Asian invader Syrians. What is your point?

It's just funny calling the Assyrians "savage hordes"


Under Thutmose I, Egypt made several campaigns south.[14] This eventually resulted in their annexation of Nubia circa 1504 BC. After the conquest, Kerma culture was increasingly Egyptianized, yet rebellions continued for 220 years until c. 1300 BC. During the New Kingdom, Nubia nevertheless became a key province of the New Kingdom, economically, politically and spiritually. Indeed, major Pharonic ceremonies were held at Jebel Barkal near Napata.[15] As an Egyptian colony from the 16th century BC, Nubia ("Kush") was governed by an Egyptian Viceroy of Kush. With the disintegration of the New Kingdom around 1070 BC, Kush became an independent kingdom centered at Napata in modern northern Sudan


Resistance to the early eighteenth Dynasty Egyptian rule by neighbouring Kush is evidenced in the writings of Ahmose, son of Ebana, an Egyptian warrior who served under Nebpehtrya Ahmose (1539-1514 BC), Djeserkara Amenhotep I (1514–1493 BC) and Aakheperkara Thutmose I (1493–1481 BC). At the end of the Second Intermediate Period (mid-sixteenth century BC), Egypt faced the twin existential threats—the Hyksos in the North and the Kushites in the South. Taken from the autobiographical inscriptions on the walls of his tomb-chapel, the Egyptians undertook campaigns to defeat Kush and conquer Nubia under the rule of Amenhotep I (1514–1493 BC). In Ahmose's writings, the Kushites are described as archers,

"Now after his Majesty had slain the Bedoin of Asia, he sailed upstream to Upper Nubia to destroy the Nubian bowmen."

The tomb writings contain two other references to the Nubian bowmen of Kush.


As ruler of Nubia and Upper Egypt, Piye took advantage of the squabbling of Egypt's rulers by expanding Nubia's power beyond Thebes into Lower Egypt. In reaction to this, Tefnakht of Sais formed a coalition between the local kings of the Delta Region and enticed Piye's nominal ally—king Nimlot of Hermopolis—to defect to his side. Tefnakht then sent his coalition army south and besieged Herakleopolis where its king Peftjauawybast and the local Nubian commanders appealed to Piye for help. Piye reacted quickly to this crisis in his regnal year 20 by assembling an army to invade Middle and Lower Egypt and visited Thebes in time for the great Opet Festival which proves he effectively controlled Upper Egypt by this time. His military feats are chronicled in the Victory stela at Gebel Barkal.

Piye viewed his campaign as a Holy War, commanding his soldiers to cleanse themselves ritually before beginning battle. He himself offered sacrifices to the great god Amun.[9]

Piye then marched north and achieved complete victory at Herakleopolis, conquering the cities of Hermopolis and Memphis among others, and received the submission of the kings of the Nile Delta including Iuput II of Leontopolis, Osorkon IV of Tanis and his former ally Nimlot at Hermopolis. Hermopolis fell to the Nubian king after a siege lasting five months. Tefnakht took refuge in an island in the Delta and formally conceded defeat in a letter to the Nubian king but refused to personally pay homage to the Kushite ruler. Satisfied with his triumph, Piye proceeded to sail south to Thebes and returned to his homeland in Nubia never to return to Egypt.

Despite Piye's successful campaign into the Delta, his authority only extended northward from Thebes up to the western desert oases and Herakleopolis where Peftjauawybast ruled as a Nubian vassal king. The local kings of Lower Egypt—especially Tefnakht—were essentially free to do what they wanted without Piye's oversight. It was Shabaka, Piye's successor, who later rectified this unsatisfactory situation by attacking Sais and defeating Tefnakht's successor Bakenranef there, in his second regnal year.
 



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