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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Elmaestro: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Punos_Rey: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Antalas: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Punos_Rey: I'm still trying to see where his big win is. 2,500 from present goes to around 478 BC. Admixture happening before the Arabs shouldn't be a surprise or a gotcha moment for any member here? And I don't know anyone of any credibility who says all people living in North Africa were 100% Black/dark skinned until the Arabs arrived when population movements had been ongoing. Despite the admixture by that date historical writers still cited the continued existence of substantial black populations such as the Mauri, Numidians, Garamantes etc at that point in time. [/QUOTE]None of these people were described as black except some garamantes but even in the case of garamantes it seems greco-roman authors were not sure how to define them and often used terms that underlined their mixed appearance. black = aethiopians = black skinned, frizzy hair, snub-nosed, etc located in the sahara and sub-saharan african regions swarthy/dark (like modern north africans) = Mauri, numidians, libyans, etc located in North africa but reality wasn't black/white there has always been a cline in terms of pigmentation with more inland people being darker than coastal mediterranean populations same in egypt. [/QUOTE]"And the Mauretanii of that place held also the land to the west of Aurasium, a tract both extensive and fertile. And beyond these dwelt other nations of the Mauretanii, who were ruled by Ortaļas, who had come, as was stated above, as an ally of Solomon and the Romans. And I have heard this man say that beyond the country which he ruled there was no habitation of men, but desert land extending to a great distance, and that beyond that there are men, not [b]black-skinned like the Mauretanii[/b], but very white in body and fair-haired." https://sites.google.com/site/persuasionpast/home/procopius-on-mauretania You were saying? [/QUOTE]In this very study (OP) they tried to pass off the SSA correspondence to being that of Numidians: [i] [QUOTE]The sub-Saharan ancestry we observe at Kerkouane may result either from direct contact or indirect contact through the nomadic populations of the Sahara. [b]These nomadic groups, known to the Greeks as Numidians, are thought to be ancestral to Amazigh populations living in North Africa today. Trans-Saharan trade routes, made easier by a greener, less arid Sahara than today, had connected the communities of North Africa with their sub-Saharan counterparts since the Bronze Age[/b] (36, 37). Herodotus noted the coexistence of sedentary peoples and nomadic peoples in the land of the "libou" in the 5th century BCE (38). [/QUOTE][/i] We're in weird times. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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