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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Shebitku: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: Why that would be the Baladi Egyptians... You can look in the thread I cited to see examples of Baladi. [/QUOTE]I definitely agree that the "Baladi" of Upper Egypt are the best representation of the ancients, but I also don't believe that many posters here believe that or that that is the census [QUOTE]Copts come in a range of phenotypes from white Greek looking types in Alexandria to Nubian looking ones in Aswan.[/QUOTE]Cairo Coptics [IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FzHY40mXwAIZ7dc?format=png&name=small[/IMG] Aswan Copt [IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fw_eJQNWcAAoPms?format=jpg&name=small[/IMG] [QUOTE]Originally posted by BrandonP: do they simply write off the latter as all admixed with enslaved sub-Saharan Africans?[/QUOTE]Absolutely that is a narrative aided and abetted by the Abusir study that the "darker skinned" people are recent slaves or new comers.. For example, I was reading this article by a Copt on the Gurna population https://copticliterature.wordpress.com/2020/07/30/sorry-the-inhabitants-of-gurna-are-not-related-to-the-ancient-egyptians-and-their-genetic-structure-proves-that/ The whole article is pretty much trying to tarnish their reputation as "grave robbers" and that they "were destroying the antiquities of Ancient Egypt"... They then go onto insist that since (Stevanovitch,2004) shows that they have a "ancestral genetic structure from an ancestral East African population" that this "dispels then the myth propagated by the Gurnawis that they are descendants of the Ancient Egyptians." People from Gurna [IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FzHUl3XX0AE9wYC?format=png&name=small[/IMG] [IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FzHUrrpWwAAHqZg?format=png&name=small[/IMG] [IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FzHUuIAXwAEfiEn?format=png&name=360x360[/IMG] [IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxIWqHrXgAIXi77?format=png&name=small[/IMG] In my opinion they don't look different from the other "Baladis", unless I'm missing something. A lot of what I see online is the delta Copts pushing that AE identity belongs to Copts and Copts alone, the more Arabized/Muslims pushing that "Egyptians are Egyptians" and that the darker skinned people are recent slaves and of course you don't hear the narrative of the "Baladi" as they're lower class citizens [/QB][/QUOTE]
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