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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Firewall: [qb] This is my view of the berbers looking at the info above. Iberomaurusian and Capsian folks were black. The first proto-berbers were black and white. Some became brown later. When they became the berbers in the late bronze to early iron age the berbers were black,white and brown. Most were black. By the the time of the roman empire most were brown and white,some were still black. The largest number of the group were brown,then white then black. It is that way now in modern times. For the egyptians,the first egyptians were black but when the civilization came most were black. Civilization in egypt started in lower egypt from blacks from upper egypt with influences from sumer and nubia. pre history Lower egypt at this time was mostly white and upper egypt was black or mostly black. Brown types in lower egypt were growing in numbers by the way and in time became the major group in lower egypt. Ancient egyptians remain mostly black in ancient times. This change in the late middles ages to early modern period and today mst are brown but still some are black and some are white. [/qb][/QUOTE]What do you mean by the first "Berbers"? Like I said, "Berber" is a language and culture and that language and culture originated in East Africa and migrated across the Sahara. You seem to imply that this began in coastal North Africa due to migrations of Eurasians when it did not. The word "berber" was never used by any ancient populations of coastal North Africa prior to Arab contact. Because again, this language and culture was spread along a huge area from the Nile Valley to Western Africa and the Sahel. And that did not originate along the coasts of North Africa. The problem being that modern coastal North Africans have taken up the mantle of "berber" identity as exclusive to coastal North Africa when that has no validity historically. In fact, they actually took the Tifinagh script from Saharan Tuaregs to use in this effort and those groups are not coastal populations. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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