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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Antalas: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Askia_The_Great: This is a weird statement. For that I would have to ask for every Black American to provide me with their DNA results. But fact of the matter is there are Black American individuals like Morgan Freeman who do have Tuareg ancestry. Its real. its not hotep babble. There are records that show Tuaregs were in fact taken into slavery. Of course not large amounts like other West Africans but its a reality. Heck in fact if you want to go deeper the foundation of ADOS culture is West African Sahelian culture which is why its distinct from other Afro-Diasporan cultures. This is real and a reality. [/QUOTE]How could they have determined that it was specifically "Tuareg"? You simply can't, so in this instance, it might have been based on an old outdated commercial test. Therefore, it's essential not to put too much credit on it. However, I do acknowledge that some AA individuals might have a small percentage of berber DNA, but it's not prevalent, and I'm unsure what's your point with it. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Askia_The_Great: Tuaregs in Mali are probably the most "pure" Tuaregs considering their high frequencies of E-M81 compared to Niger Tuaregs. And how "recent" are we talking because the Sanhaja who are argued to be the predecessors of Tuaregs were described as darker skinned by non-Africans. Either way I have read convincing studies that show Tuaregs kinship with Bejas. Which could explain their features. [/QUOTE]Evaluating their admixture primarily based on the paternal side would be inaccurate since the majority of it is likely to have originated from the maternal side. This is not surprising as it is historically well attested : [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/AGvToXj.jpg[/IMG] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Askia_The_Great: You're acting like Berber culture and phenotypes are homogenous. Who said Sahara/Sahelian Berbers were isolated? Fact is they are/were darker on average than the average coastal Berber. And for context I am NOT arguing "purity" when I bring up the more dark skinned Sanhaja. [/QUOTE]Who claimed they were homogeneous? I'm merely stating that the Tuareg people exhibit a diverse range of skin colors, indicating that not all individuals have the same complexion – this fact is evident. Therefore, we cannot definitively interpret what the term "white" precisely refers to in those sources. It would likely fall within the variation seen among Saharan/Sahelian Berbers, but that's the only conclusion we can draw from the available information. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Askia_The_Great: Again, what is light skinned? Because the Mauritanians Jari posted to me aren't light skinned the same way coastal Berbers are. I don't like to picture spam but this is how Tuaregs from Mali look from what I constantly see: They are on average darker than coastal Maghrebis. This is NOT controversial... [/QUOTE]Yes you're right but what do we do with these kinds of tuaregs ? : https://youtu.be/xbSFzvlBdyg?t=34 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df2CTh1-j_s [QUOTE]Originally posted by Askia_The_Great: My whole point is we already KNOW who "white" was referred to by the Sonnike of Ghana. I.e the Fula and Sanhaja of Tukulur. [/QUOTE]Do you have a source for this ? Also the problem being that you wouldn't know how light those sanhaja were. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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