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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Archeopteryx: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] [IMG]https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-dff10e3fc37b6fb6c75b21f50c4a4783-lq[/IMG] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: The people who allowed this Indian person to pass as black didn't do it because of any words he wrote, but because of how he looked. this thread is about an Indian person in America passing themselves off as black and committing fraud. It is about an Indian in the United States passing themselves off as black and how this has everything to do with skin color. Somehow you just keep trying to run from that and/or blame this obsession with skin color on black people like they created racism. That is my point[/QUOTE]Archeopteryx, I think you should stop arguing with Doug he agrees with you, this Indian man is not black, he's just trying to pass as black. He wants you address the wrongness of trying to pass as black when you are not black [/qb][/QUOTE]At the same time the problem in society is not only about skin color. If it was, he would have been treated in a similar way regardless if he was an Indian or African American. But now he was treated differently when he posed as a person with same skin color as himself, but with another cultural and ethnic background, and with another history in the US. So to regard it as ONLY skin color is to simplify matters. The divides in society goes deeper than only skin color. So he was maybe wrong, but he only took advantage of a system which discriminates people, even if they happen to have the same skin color. I had a ready made answer for Doug, but it is rather meaningless to argue. It does not lead anywhere. We obviously have different views. [/qb][/QUOTE]You didn't answer anything for me because you missed th eobivous point that black people did not create this system. So trying to pin this on black people is the problem. I never said racism made sense or was logical, what I have been challenging you on is your attempt to blame this on black people. And also I am challenging your attempt to deny that that black skin color in Africa isn't similar to populations in India and other parts of the world to begin with as "black skin". That in itself doesn't justify racism in the US, but shows the fact that the core of it is based on skin color as the most obvious outward indicator that can be used to segregate Europeans from Africans. Because historically Indians were blocked from coming to America in the first place so the odds of a "black" person being of Indian descent when this racial system was put in place was pretty low. Also recall that in the era when America was established, the Dutch and British East and West India companies were at their height and both of them subjugated and enslaved Indians in India and promoted skin color based hierarchies in India and Asia. And fundamentally the problem here is you trying to put "logic" into a discussion of racism and colorism when there is no "logic" or "science" behind it, as a way to again attack black people for using the word black. Again, the whole issue here with this guy trying to "pass" as black is to blame black people for him not getting into University, as if black people put the racist system in place. Not only that, if you ask me this whole stunt was supported by whites because I don't see how this guy would actually pass as African American. These Asians have been used by whites to attack black people for racism while promoting Asians in their place, like they have done around the world. And Indians have a long history of siding with whites over blacks in various colonies around the world, including Uganda, South Africa, Kenya and the Caribbean. [b]Why Indians fought to be White in America[/b] [IMG]https://img.youtube.com/vi/kZWhSbbsMvM/sddefault.jpg[/IMG] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZWhSbbsMvM [/QB][/QUOTE]
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