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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: ^ Yeah, that's the thing when Eurocentrism is not as "aggressive" or overt like a Nazi or something, it tends to get ignored. During my time as an undergrad student in the anthropology department I was well aware of the Solutrean Hypothesis and the type of mentality it entailed while other students were totally oblivious. I try to be as objective as I can about the situation and imagine how people would react if a black professor started dressing as a Meso-American person due to the Afro-Olmec Hypothesis. Suffice to say I have NEVER heard of the latter situation only the Pro-Solutrean professors.[/QUOTE]As far as the Solutrean Hypothesis, I'm glad that's resolved now. Though I do note that the issue was properly resolved with the aDNA testing of the actual samples that were involved in the controversy (ie Kennewick Man himself, not some other sample that was never considered to have Euro features). This is how it's supposed to be done. This makes it all the more remarkable that they do not extend to Bernal and others who propose African ancestry in specific West Eurasian samples, that same courtesy. It's because they know they would lose. This is, I think, why essentially all the predynastic Egyptian and West Eurasian samples that were called out by pre-1970s generations of anthropologists for having strong resemblance to Africans, have not been DNA tested. The only exception I can think of, is Hotu Cave, mentioned by Briggs as physically resembling certain North Africans. Judging by the unusually high levels of Basal Eurasian in this population, Briggs was correct and there is, in fact, something genetically different about this sample. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: That's the thing. We never hear about what the actual situation was in the Aegean whether Neolithic or Bronze Age. When it comes to legends, we only hear about the Homeric Iliad and Odyssey but never about the 'Suppliant Maidens' or the lost epic Aethiopica. Speaking of which [b]note how in the description of the Danaide, reference is made not only to Libyans and Nilotes, but Cyprians of Cyprus[/b] and Indians and Aethiopians, the latter are said to reside next to Indians which suggests this is NOT African Ethiopia but somewhere close to India whose people ride camels, mules, and horses. This sounds like Arabia. Not to mention the cannibalistic Amazons of Tritonis (the Maghreb).[/QUOTE]Does not surprise me. The proto-anthro portions of the Old Testament have listed under Mizraim, tribes that modern scholars identify as linked to Cyprus and Crete. As far as those horsemen you mentioned, pre-1970s anthropologists mention skeletal remains of 'Hamite-Indo European' hybrid populations. [i]Judging by the Afontova Gora II cranial fragment, the Upper Palreolithic population evidently must be assigned to the Mongoloid race. The Europeoid component begins to penetrate into certain areas during the Neolithic-especially into the southern part of the Krasnoyarsk Territory. Alekseev [b]identifies in this latter area a morphologically Negroid type which would indicate contact with_ southern regions.[/b][/i] Russian Source Materials for the Racial History of Northern Eurasia Author(s): Chester S. Chard Source: Arctic Anthropology, Vol. 1, No. 1 (1962), pp. 117-125 [URL=http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=003803;p=1#000000](Originally posted by Evergreen)[/URL] These are the populations we see in the bible as Philistines (listed under Mizraim) and on Egyptian walls as mixed Hurrians and Sea Peoples, and in Herodotus as the Colchians. There is also of course the ragtag Habiru and Hyksos populations, who seem to be part of the same Bronze Age theme of hybridization, though in their case I'm not familiar with any possible African ancestry. You might be interested to know that the dendrogram below, from Rosung 1990, is accompanied by another, larger, dendrogram, in which a relatively recent (Metal Age, I'm pretty sure, possibly Iron Age), Anatolian sample forms a cluster with a modern Ethiopian sample. So, like I said earlier on in this thread, we do, in fact, have samples that support the anthropology side of Bernal work (if not the linguistic side, or the notion of heavy cultural borrowing). This anthro part is exactly the part of his work that his critics insist has no archaeological support. [URL=https://i.imgur.com/P7luITS.png]Dendrogram from Rosung 1990, reproduced by Barry Kemp[/URL] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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