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[QUOTE]Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova: [QB] Amun-Ra says: [b]This is NOT a direct quote. I have the book and there's more ... than complete sentences. Read books written by Park Chung Hee himself instead. As for budget financed 50% by foreign loans and aid. We already have that in Africa for the last 60 years (some higher than 50%)... Park Chung Hee there was talking about the problems lent to him by the previous South Korean governments. His goal was always to reverse the situation. [/b] You are wrong again, and again trying to appear as Mr Infallible rather than simply acknowledging the point and adjusting your inaccurate claim. When Park talks re: to "wake up" or to demand that the US government to "change its aid policy to allow Korea to “[i] obtain more of the kind of aid we want and to utilize it independently” and “We reject any begging-style aid” [/i] - all that simply reinforces my point. You are making my point for me. Think dude! Think! Your own quote shows that (a) the US aid was in place, (b) the aid was very important to South Korea, and (c) Park wanted to change THE KINDS OF AID received, and wanted to be able to use the aid INDEPENDENTLY without US strings. The aid was in place. None of this helps your earlier claim that aid was so minimal or marginal to South Korea. You invoked Park to supposedly cover your shaky point, but in fact Park undermines what you say. Rather than admit you are wrong or acknowledge the data and modify your point, you keep trying to cover up. You aren't fooling anyone.. [b]In campaigning for Korea’s autonomy, free from US intervention linked to foreign aid, Park set about systematically eliminating US influence on Korean Government affairs. [/b] Dude, this undermines your case. Park campaigning to a state "free of aid" shows that the aid ALREADY EXISTED and was INFLUENTIAL. Why else would he be "campaigning" in the first place? Use some logic dude. And Park wanted more power over Koreas affairs, he wanted to reduce US influence based on how the US interfered in S Korean affairs using aid as a leverage. Fine, But again, this dos not cancel out the central point that (a) the aid ALREADY EXISTED and (b) was INFLUENTIAL, and (c) Park wanted to use said aid more INDEPENDENTLY of US interference. Why else would Park be "campaigning" to reduce the US using aid to interfere? By the way you say "repeatedly read from Park's books. How come you don't actually post something from those books to support your point? What's taking you so long? [b]Now, please, shut it for you own sakes. I say that as a friend. Read Park Chung Hee's book. You're wasting my time otherwise because you're just repeating what you gather from western media and literature (or those influenced by them) which I'm already familiar with. [/b] No, you quit your line of bullshiit, and your continued habit of covering and hiding and denying, as if you are Mr Infallible, when people point out things that you get wrong. Acknowledge that the data people point out makes a claim untenable, and simply adjust your claim- Done. You don't have to try to maintain that you are Mr Infallible, and waste the time of people here, when all you need to do is acknowledge what has been pointed out an correct what you say. Again and again people here on ES have called you out on things you keep claiming and again and again rather than simply tweak and modify what you say, you go into this elaborate "I can't possibly be wrong" mode, trying to argue or justify an untenable point. I can't imagine a bigger waste of time. Dude you are gonna be wrong sometimes... its the nature of the business.. When something you say is off, qualify your statement and/or adjust to the new data. That's all dude. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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