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[QUOTE]Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Amun-Ra The Ultimate: [qb] ^^You're a total idiot. As I said: Park Chung Hee there was talking about the problems lent to him by the previous South Korean governments. The situation of South Korea before Park Chung Hee took power was as worse as many current African countries. His goal was always to reverse the situation. This is a quote from your book: [QUOTE]Park tackled this issue on two fronts: he urged the Korean people to “wake up” from old habits of dependence and to work for economic development, and he demanded that the US Government change its aid policy to allow Korea to “obtain more of the kind of aid we want and to utilize it independently” (Park Chung Hee 1963a: 45). He declared, “We reject any begging-style aid” (Nam Chaehui 1963: 57). In campaigning for Korea’s autonomy, free from US intervention linked to foreign aid, Park set about systematically eliminating US influence on Korean Government affairs. -quote same book [/QUOTE]^^If African countries do something similar to that. Half the victory would have been won. The main ideology of Park Chung Hee was one of "Self-Reliance". Google it, read his books, etc. [/qb][/QUOTE]Dumbass, must I school you yet again? You minimized the role of aid in South Korea, and I demonstrated using your own sources, that you are plain wrong. Rather than simply qualify or correct your claim, you go into lame diversion or restatement of what you have been already debunked on, posturing as as if you originally made the point. No one is being fooled by such. [b]As I said: Park Chung Hee there was talking about the problems lent to him by the previous South Korean governments. The situation of South Korea before Park Chung Hee took power was as worse as many current African countries. His goal was always to reverse the situation. [/b] Now you are trying to backtrack by changing the subject. The issue was your claim that aid was unimportant to South Korea. You said see Park Chung Hee for confirmation, little realizing that Park himself as shown above, acknowledged that aid WAS important. You are trying to move the goalposts now with a diversion. The issue was not problems left by previous givernment. No one is fooled with your shaky diversion. The issue was aid. Park's goal was to reverse how the Americans were using aid to interfere in S. Korea's affairs. Your own "supporting reference" says this. You earlier said: [b]To develop Thailand, Africa or any country the best thing to do is what the Chinese, American, Scandinavian, South Korean did... None of those regions grew up because of aid., [/b] But this is false. SOuth Korea had plenty of US aid, Let's see your boy Park Chung Hee: QUOTE: [i]"In campaigning for Korea’s autonomy, free from US intervention linked to foreign aid, Park set about systematically eliminating US influence on Korean Government affairs." and “obtain more of the kind of aid we want and to utilize it independently” and “We reject any begging-style aid” [/i] Your own quote shows that (a) the US aid was in place, (b) the aid was very important to South Korea, and (c) Park wanted to change THE KINDS OF AID received, and wanted to be able to use the aid INDEPENDENTLY without US strings. The aid was in place. None of this helps your earlier insinuation that aid was so minimal or marginal to South Korea. [b]This is a from your book: [QUOTE]Park tackled this issue on two fronts: he urged the Korean people to “wake up” from old habits of dependence and to work for economic development, and he demanded that the US Government change its aid policy to allow Korea to “obtain more of the kind of aid we want and to utilize it independently” (Park Chung Hee 1963a: 45). He declared, “We reject any begging-style aid” (Nam Chaehui 1963: 57). In campaigning for Korea’s autonomy, free from US intervention linked to foreign aid, Park set about systematically eliminating US influence on Korean Government affairs. -quote same book [/QUOTE]^^If African countries do something similar to that. Half the victory would have been won. The main ideology of Park Chung Hee was one of "Self-Reliance". Google it, read his books, etc. [/b] Dude, you are only making my point for me, and your quote shows it. Park's call for self-reliance does not change the central point about aid. Think man! Why would Park be even calling for "self-reliance" unless aid was not such a big factor in play, being used by the US to interfere? US Aid at one time was over 50% of South Korea's budget. - Quote: [i]"This repesents 52% of the total budget.. thus more than half the national budget depended on the United States.. It showed, dramatically, that our government would have to instantly close down if US aid were withheld or withdrawn." [/i] --(Park Chung Hee, - quoted in Korea's Development Under Park Chung Hee By Hyung-A Kim. 2004.) [/QB][/QUOTE]
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