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[QUOTE]Originally posted by zarahan aka Enrique Cardova: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: [qb] ^ The problem is the ideology of scientism which is itself a kind of religion (and really based on another religion--occult Gnosticism but that's a whole other topic). Science is a tool or methodology used to understand the universe. It is not the be all end all like God almighty, but of course that is what atheists make it out to be. Unfortunately as I've already stated, because science is a tool, it can be and has often been as is now [i]abused[/i] by authorities. In fact, I believe the study itself can be counted as an abuse since biased or flawed studies have become a dime a dozen in academia. Especially considering as you pointed out the racist history of Darwinian evolution. It's funny because the demonic troll plaguing this forum accused me of being an 'evolutionist' just because I disagreed with his idiotic hyper-literal interpretation of the bible. It's idiots like him that make the bible look stupid and thus make scientism look sensible. Scientism is rooted in materialism because all science is based on empirical evidence constituted by experimental procedure and sense experience. All experimental procedures are limited by technology and all sense experience is limited to human perception, thus science itself is limited. Now for Brandon and others I myself am not "against" evolution per say but I am skeptical. We know micro-evolution exists in the sense of minute genetic changes being made to populations and in the case of simple celled organisms like bacteria which whose populations die and propagate quickly to develop new strains, or that within species of animals like humans for example our morphology over time has changed to become more gracile. The issue of course is macro-evolution of the development of one species from another. Again, while I am not denying the possibility of such, I just haven't seen any hard evidence considering that we have not seen truly transitionary fossil evidence not to mention, the fossil hoaxes that have been perpetrated. This is the reason why I'm skeptical. Also, as I've stated before the idea of evolution did not begin with Darwin but was postulated back in ancient times by thinkers from several cultures but the oldest recorded one comes from the pre-Socratic Greek philosopher Anaximander. In fact not just evolution, but even the eugenics practices associated with Darwin's cousin Francis Galton is rooted in ancient Greco-Roman notions of human selective breeding and infanticide of weak babies. So really these are all pagan beliefs at the source including the belief in superior and inferior ethne (peoples) which is the root of racism. Christianity including creationists do not subscribe to such beliefs that are against Christian doctrines of humans being made in God's image and thus human sanctity. [/qb][/QUOTE]Yes, too often scientism makes out as if it has all the answers. But does it? For example as we have oft pointed out on ES, the science shows that animals and people that live in warmer tropical climes, tend to have elongated limb proportions relatively speaking. Vice versa for the cold side of the house with various other intermediate patterns in between. Likewise plants in a salt water environment will over time, develop a higher tolerance for salt. This is reasonable and good science. Most educated people of faith in the West have no problem with such, save for more extreme blinkered types. And various faith variants such as Old Earth models have long reconciled the matter of lengthy periods/eons needed for the earth's age or various processes to play out. However, a key question is when you get beyond the routine workaday processes of biological adaptation into the realm of design and ultimate purposes. Sure salt-water plants may evolve/change, but what is the ultimate cause that set forward the plants, salt and water and their interaction, along with the planet they are on? What is the ultimate cause or intelligence that produced that complexity or outcome? Below that are various intermediate phenomena science cannot satisfactorily explain, or where there are massive evidential gaps like the speciation issues mentioned above, or the complexity issue as to how random processes produce something as complex as the human brain or the universe. Science has not "resolved" such things despite bold claims in various quarters that are just as messianic in tone as the stereotypical cross waving medieval crusader. But entire libraries already groan with debate on such matters. They ain't gonna be solved in this thread or any other. lol [/QB][/QUOTE]
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