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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Archeopteryx: When it comes to the correlation between acceptance of evolution and tolerance I think an important factor is also education. Well educated people, especially in the field of science tend to accept evolution. Same well educated people seldom show overt racism. So one can wonder if the tolerance maybe are more related to educational level than religion. [qb]In USA Buddhists and Hindus are open to the idea of evolution. Many Asian immigrants are also relatively well educated. On top of that Buddhism and Hinduism have another view of time, and also about afterlife than many Christians and Muslims, and evolution are maybe easier to fit into their world view.[/qb] Belief in evolution seems also relative high among Jews (in USA and Western Europe) who also are relatively well educated. If they are more tolerant is maybe another matter. [/QUOTE]IMO these types of studies are misleading as scientists themselves are heavily involved in dictating socially accepted thought and socially accepted areas of inquiry, using language they themselves have cultivated and employed in their interactions with the Asian people you're mentioning (e.g. 'crackpot', 'superstitious', 'primitive', 'creationist', 'pseudoscience'). So these studies are not really measuring what people think with their own free choice and free will, as much as willingness of people to conform to western ideas and willingness to abandon beliefs that western intellectuals have historically been hostile to, and which western intellectuals refuse to co-exist with, as if to say, only western science is acceptable. Just look at the so-called 'pseudo-science' section of wikipedia, which is a good example of how western intellectuals and their parrots online systematically disparage and sideline the beliefs and sciences practiced by non-Euro peoples, even though some of these have now accumulated enough scientific support to be treated as a valid areas of research. One example of this is acupoints of TCM (traditional Chinese medicine), which can be detected on the body with certain devices. Aside from these acupoints, there are also some works in the last couple of decades that have identified myofacial tissues running along the lengths of the human body, as correlating with (though not necessarily equating to) acupuncture meridians. The fact that such subjects are still in the pseudoscience section and disparaged in 'scientific' books as entirely arbitrary, betrays the fact that you cannot win against this establishment that actively seeks to police and protect the status quo, even where it's been proved wrong. So, we see a large gap between science on the frontiers of the unknown, which often provides support for these things, and opinionated so-called intellectuals speaking and writing from their desks and offices, miles away from the frontiers of science where people are doing most of the hard work. It is the latter type (historians, professors, textbooks writers, science educators, museums. wiki editors) that acts as gatekeepers, by filtering what it gets from the former, and then it gives the public what it thinks is acceptable, while discarding things of interest that it considers unacceptable or threatening to the status quo. So, when these types of questionnaires are published, it's not exactly convincing that they measure what they're claiming to measure, because people have never been given a free choice to choose between competing ideas, and because you can't make a free choice even if you've done your homework and sorted out this mess. Not if you want to have a career and if you want to fit in with certain groups. It's funny that this is understood well in politics, where there is recognized a need for free and fair elections. There is no such thing as free and fair dissemination and discussion of the full spectrum of scientific knowledge. Given the history of how westerners have interacted with the religions and cultures of colonized people, scientists policing acceptable thought and then running their own evolution questionnaires on individuals with unknown credentials (as opposed to religious leaders more qualified to speak on behalf of their religion) is not all that different from the farce of movie studies running their own internal investigations on accused people, like Joss Whedon, etc as opposed to calling the cops. You can't be both a protector of the status quo and a neutral investigator. Having said that, it's true that Buddhism and Hinduism include thought that can be interpreted as compatible with aspects of evolution through 'natural' means. This is presumably where some of these questionnaire results are coming from, when it comes to the Asian participants. But it's a mistake to interpret this as a compatibility between these religions and the larger ideology of Darwinian evolution, in the same way that people who run with superficial similarities elsewhere in religion (e.g. between Buddha and Jesus, Horus and Jesus, Krishna and Jesus, Odin and Hermes, etc) are generally mistaken. There is also the question of the credibility of scientists to speak on matters of religion. Let's not forget it was scientists not too long ago who claimed there is a 'God' gene that explains susceptibility to religious ideas. This shows how clueless and patronizing publications on religion can be, that they would reduce religious experiences to the possession of a gene. And I bring this up specifically because I don't recognize their authority to determine who is a Christian. American Christians include evangelicals who see Trump as a savior sent by God, as well as megachurch preachers, and prosperity preachers, all whom are about the furthest you can get from being a follower of Jesus. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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