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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Everyone's_a_Pascha: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Graf_Genn: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Snapdragon: Well when you are not taught any manners or discipline as a child then you grow up that way as well. Egyptian children are not disciplined at all. They scream, fight, throw things at each other, say the nastiest words possible, shove and push and simply put it is their parents fault for not teaching them the proper manners they needed. I have seen grown adult men and women make fun of a down syndrome child at a wedding party. Not one or two but a group of them. Of course along with a dozen children. What did they think he was a clown or something? Didn't someone teach them to behave and be respectful of other people even with disabilities? No..... True story: Egyptian man marries European woman and they have a daughter. They live in Europe. After several years, they all go to Egypt to visit his family. They stay about 3 weeks. Upon their return, the school of the little girl calls and asks that the parents go to her school. They are appalled when they find out that she has been hitting and biting other children, calling them bad names and throwing dirt on them in the play area. The parents ask her where she learned this and why she was doing it. She replied with "all the kids in Egypt were doing it." Needless to say, his wife refuses to take the little girl back to Egypt. She was very well mannered prior to this. [/QUOTE]What inclines someone to write rubbish like this? The general majority of children in Egypt fear their parents, and they know that bad behaviour at school usually earns them a few bruises at home. Even young adults in college know that disagreeing with a parent while looking them in the eyes is a bad move to make. Go witness children in the malls or boutiques in Egypt and note how many are behaving as described. Regarding teasing delayed or disabled children, Egypt has ancient cultural indications of actually honoring them, as well as Christian and Islamic precedent for treating them respectfully. Don't be fooled by these sensational stories, and definitely don't believe they are the norm. [/qb][/QUOTE][b]Regarding teasing delayed or disabled children, Egypt has ancient cultural indications of actually honoring them, as well as Christian and Islamic precedent for treating them respectfully.[/b] What was considered recordable as Pharoahnic or Priestly attitudes 2,600 years ago doesn't affect contemporary attitudes today. Neither what is precepts of Islamic or Christian scriptural litergy consummated in popular beliefs of modern Egyptians, nor any other culture. What you are refering to as "ideal" is not in practice per se. and when it comes to fearing their parents, not in my in-law's family. I don't remember hearing my ex-husband ever commenting that he fears, or feared his father. But rather respected him and didn't want to disappoint him ever. Same with his mother. What I notice is its not a matter of behaving correctly , but its a matter of doing what is socially acceptable. It might not be the right thing to do, or what God wants us to do; but if the act or transgression doesn't impart gossip or wrath from the community then go ahead and do it. Its a really what you can get away with, not so much of doing the right thing. Snapdragon is living in Tanta. My ex-husbnd went to college in Tanta and spent most of his childhood in Alex. Boys will be Boys is tantamount in both communities and he basically wasn't expected to be anything but a monster for most of his growing up and young adult years. But somehow now that he is a parent and a husband he is expected to behave in a fashion that will be a good example of Muslim piety. I say its a little to late to enforce "ideal" behavior. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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