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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Everyone's_a_Pascha: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Graf_Genn: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Everyone's_a_Pascha: No what I have seen isn't rare, its common. Graf_Genn, I know you want to see your people as flawless or at least vastly superior to the west. But even then why can't you see the social ills for what they are? Is it because you don't find fault with these social ills? Is it because it doesn't affect you, so it doesn't exist? Loads of social problems don't affect me: Drug abuse teenage pregnancy sexual abuse/assualt DUI corporate crime (so far, keep my fingers crossed) panhandling and an assortment of others I can't recall because it doesn't affect me. But its not like I won't admit that these social ills are in my society. [/qb][/QUOTE] :( Sigh... after I bid you good day you summon me back just to misrepresent me? Let me start by saying I never made any comparison to any Western nations, so please don't make further attempts to pass this off as a superiority issue. I have also never said Egyptian culture was perfect, what I said was Egyptian kids biting eachother in school and wedding parties making fun disabled kids was rare. In fact I have never even heard of anything like this except from 2 foreign women with relations to Egyptians in Tanta. Forgive me if I don't take your word over my own experience when representing the entirety of my people. "All the children in Egypt were doing this." Sorry, I think this is rubbish. My own childhood in Egypt, and that of family and friends refutes this. Add to that a party of adults ridiculing a disabled child? I still have reservations about it, but maybe snapdragon did indeed see this, but to try and convince me that this is the standard in Egypt is... :rolleyes: not really worthy of more response. [/QB][/QUOTE]Again it doesn't affect you personally so it don't exist. And on top of it you are a self-declared "1%" (of wealthy Europeans). Ever heard fat cats only life in a fishbowl before? :D If I had the time I'd go back through and repost comments and hyperlinks to threads in which both foreigner and Egyptians alike rant uncontrollably about how ill-behaved children are and how disabled people are treated with spite. My personal view is in the west we see children as miniture adults. And expect them to behave accordingly. But in Islamic precepts children are to be included in all functions of family and society. While western Protestant values see putting children in their own section of the home and have a few particular adults to attend to their needs is meant to keep them in a low contagion and stress free environment. I see both systems as having value, and both systems as having drawbacks. But even then someone who is part of the top 1% couldn't possibly understand. By the way I have a pretty darn resilant set of socialist views. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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