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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Undead: [QB] I was not saying the big bang never happened, I was saying that there are forces other than what Phagocytes clipping referred to that were and are factors in the big bang and its role in creation theories. Big bang is not the end all of why the universe is here for current scientific thought. It is merely a component. I do not understand why answering the question of "is the cause mechanical or personal" is relevant.? [/QB][/QUOTE]
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